Things have been slow at work the last three nights. Both fortunately and unfortunately, I have wasted my time on youtube. I think I have about three videos to go, and I am at the end of the list. Maybe by tomorrow night there will be new videos, so I don't have to watch re-runs.

In the past three nights I have learned the above diets are perfect in every way and at the same time they will be the death to us all. It mostly depends on the opinion of the person making the video.

Dr. Mike takes down other people on their approach and then Kay destroys Dr. Mike. MacDonald then goes after Dr. Mike and Dr. Mike takes down Nippard. From there, LaFleur is 'pro' whoever he interviews as long as you buy your groceries from whatever company he is hawking this week. Norton then goes after Berry who references Chaffee and Norton goes after Chaffee. The Chaffee pulls out the very study Norton was involved in and asked him to read the part about the dangers of green leaf plant toxins. Dr. Baker ate a piece of fruit and it has not had that much negative impact on society since Eve ate an apple in the Garden of Eden. Saladini referenced Baker only to get trashed by Kay.

Hopefully they can all get in the same room and work it out, maybe even WWE style, but work it out, nonetheless. Maybe even a last man standing battle royal, or a cage match or even the famed Texas Death match, cowbell included.

The only medical opinion they all seem to have in common is that at some point we are all going to die. I guess at the very end there is some science to the science.

I will show back up at work tonight with my meat and fat and salt and water and watch videos on whether I'm eating correctly or I'm an absolute imbecile. (Kay's favorite word, I even started a counter on how many times he used it to describe certain members of the carb community)

Youtube makes for a really long night shift.

Scott

I really would like to see some of the more intelligent, like say O'Mara, Dr Elizabeth Bright, Berry, Boz, Chaffee, Kiltz, Kay etc have a round table where they discuss the nuances, of fasting and fat needs. Sometimes I think I need to fast to optimize, but other times I think my hormones are already too thin and I don't want to stress too much and cause problems. So yeah, just within my head the battle rages, but one thing remains true ruminant meats are the best!

No doubts. I would be a big fan of that round table as well.

Thus far I have enjoyed the fasting and where it takes me, both during and after.

Maybe it is a nuance, maybe I am sort of slow and the 'mental clarity' thing has not happened for me thus far, but it's still hard for me to wrap my head around 'not eating to get an increase in energy'.

I have read a lot about it and I can say most of the scientific words to explain it, but 'eating to put in work' was so engrained in me from childhood is still tough to see clearly.

Good luck as you explore the fasting.

Maybe someday we will get that roundtable.

Scott

13 hours ago, Scott F. said:

Hopefully they can all get in the same room and work it out, maybe even WWE style, but work it out, nonetheless. Maybe even a last man standing battle royal, or a cage match or even the famed Texas Death match, cowbell included.

My money is on the carnivores to win.

We have the evidence on our side.

In my view, yep.

I can throw out some scientific words here and there, have some basic understanding but don't have the medical background for an all-out debate.

Instead of going with the 'study' says, or 'the doctors/research' says, I am going with I started on this date and by this date these 'good' things happened. I continued on making some adjustments here and there but continued with meat/fat, salt and water and the metabolic/immunoglobulin numbers I am most concerned with have shown drastic improvement. At one point I was on pain and inflammation medicine and now I am not and thriving.

My one story might not be enough evidence to change the world, but I most definitely don't see me changing my world back.

I'm my one of one and I am my own personal case study.

And by me being the expert on me, I'm sticking with the carnivore approach.

Not exactly the most scientific terminology but my case diagnosis/prognosis is 'there is no need to rock the boat', or maybe even, 'no need to fix what ain't broke'.

Scott

On 5/31/2025 at 5:11 AM, Scott F. said:

In the past three nights I have learned the above diets are perfect in every way and at the same time they will be the death to us all. It mostly depends on the opinion of the person making the video.

This happens because there is someone who was sick and unhealthy eating the standard American diet with all it's ultra-processed junk food, and they changed their ways. Whether they adopted the carnivore diet, vegan diet, keto diet, or Mediterranean diet, they improved their situation. Now they are an evangelizer. We're no different when we also preach a carnivore or carnivore-centric carb-controlled diet.

I'm happy to see anyone making changes to improve their health. Like Dr. Berry says, at least our vegan brothers and sisters are actually thinking about what they are putting in their mouths. It's a start (one that often leads them to carnivore eventually).