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Carnivore. Carnivore is not about eating meat. Carnivore is a mindset. It’s a mindset that we adapt to our physiology and our psyche that we will only put into our bodies that which provides the utmost nutrition for us. We make up our minds that while a particular food, whether it be a vegetable, grain or something sweet, may taste good to us, it just doesn’t provide any benefit. We have one food that provides all of the nutrients needed for human survival and that is meat. Why eat anything else? The only reason would be for pleasure. You have a desire to put aside nutrition for a moment of pleasure and nutrition is not your top priority. So for those that struggle or get off track, you might want to examine your mindset, your priorities, what you want for your life. Do you want to Do Carnivore or do you want to Be Carnivore? It is a mindset. If you consider plants, sugar or alcohol as a toxic substances to your body, the question becomes: do you moderate the poison dosage or avoid putting it in the body? That is my mindset. I know these are not good for me, so unless it's unintentional, I am abstaining from all sources of it

It’s difficult to say because we don’t know exactly how you are eating but yes it could just be a faze. It could very well be that you have used up your glycogen stores and your body is needing fuel to burn but hasn’t completely become fat adapted yet. Generally when we have hunger issues early on in our carnivore journey it’s because we are still craving carbs and we need to subdue those cravings by eating more fatty meat. In the beginning don’t be afraid to eat. That’s one of the great beauties of this way we eat that we don’t have to restrict food as long as it’s the right food. Satisfy your hunger. Eventually your body will settle down and become fat adapted and start functioning the way it was always meant to be. In the meantime, welcome to our group Iceman. Other than that, how are you getting along with carnivore. Improvements? Setbacks?

Hers a nice little guide book for getting started on carnivore from Max German MaxGerman-TheUltimateCarnivoreGuide(2).pdf

I don’t know of any studies on osteoporosis in regards to carnivore but I would imagine that a diet that rich in nutrients like carnivore would be beneficial. I wouldn’t think it could hurt. Hypercholesterolemia is a normal condition for almost all carnivores. It’s a state we live in and we know that it’s a natural thing and healthy for us. There are numerous studies on it but you have to be careful which ones you want to believe in because most of them are agenda driven to promote a plant based diet. Studies such as the The Minnesota Coronary Experiment 1968-1973,was the largest ever randomized controlled trial on the Diet Heart Hypothesis that lasted over 4 1/2 years. 9,000 men and women divided by half eating saturated fat and the other vegetable (seed) oils. Both groups had the same amount of fat and it showed no differences in cardiovascular events or cardiovascular deaths but did notice that cancer was a lot higher in the low fat group. There has never been a RCT that proves cholesterol causes cardiovascular disease.

Welcome Nassim. We are glad you could join us. As to your first problem. You are having cravings because you have not gotten over your carb addiction yet. It can take time and even after you get over the physical cravings you can still have physiological cravings. On the physical side you aren’t eating enough fatty meat. Any time you get the urge to eat something you shouldn’t eat then eat some fatty meat. I always have hard boiled eggs handy or cooked bacon. There’s always some meat cooked in the fridge that I can grab as a snack if I need to. Generally if you eat enough at your regular meal you should be satiated until it’s time to eat again. That’s why so many of us end up eating OMAD. It’s all about getting your mind right. You’ve got to be committed to eating this way for life and you got to be determined not to fail. Now your second problem. You said “ I need my ldl tobe low mandatory medical for work”. I’m not too sure what you’re talking about there. Are you saying that it’s a condition of employment that your LDL be low? I’ve never heard of anything so draconian in my life. It’s nobody’s business but yours what your number are if that’s what your saying. Those numbers are totally arbitrary anyways and mean nothing. If that is the case then you are in trouble because as a carnivore your cholesterol is going to go up. It has to because as you are fueling your body with fat in the form of ketones there will naturally be more cholesterol running around your veins. It inevitable. In my opinion you cannot maintain a carnivore lifestyle and eat fruit and it’s definitely not going to allow you to get over your addiction to carbs and the cravings. Now you can go Keto and that allows you to eat fruit as long as you keep the carbs under 20 grams but I personally don’t believe the fructose is good for you. You would be better off eating leafy greens rather than fruit in my opinion. Yes you can maintain moderation but if you struggle now with it on carnivore do you think you can do it on Keto? I the end you just have to experiment. We are all different and you need to eat in a way that works for you. I think that if this is too difficult for you or you you feel the need to reintroduce something to your diet then I think you should try it and see what happens just be prepared to go back to eliminating that food if it doesn’t work out. Goid luck.

Some chicken salad with pork rinds to start with, and then some wild hog sausage and eggs.

Five scrambled eggs with ribeye fat bites mixed in and some homemade yogurt. I’ll have some carnivore ice cream later.

I did something similar to that once where I chopped up some hard boiled eggs and mixed in some softened butter and it was tasty.

Started out with eggs and pork butt. I’m going to be eating later because I’m getting a blood test tomorrow so I’m shooting for a 12 hour fasting window.

Excellent video Bob.

Yes sir we were indoctrinated and we have passed that training on to our children and them to they’re children and as Miranda stated we are now seeing the difference.

Just some of that smoked pork butt a cooked the other day.

Dang brother…that sounds like a great feast.

That’s a good way to start.

I did experience some tiredness in the early stages but I don’t think it had anything to do with detoxing. I believe that as we start transitioning over to being fat adapted there is a lag between the time we burn up the last of our glucose and the liver producing enough ketones to keep our energy levels up to what we are accustomed to. For some it happens quickly and others not so much. We just have to give it time. Also it’s quite common for people in the beginning to eat like they are on a diet and all mainstream diets say to eat less. Well that’s just wrong. This is not a diet, it’s a lifestyle and in this way of eating we eat more to lose weight. May people find that because they are easily satiated eating carnivore that they begin to eat less and that’s a mistake. You must keep you fat content up because that is where we get our energy from. So evaluate your diet and make sure you are eating the right foods in the right proportion. Be willing to give this more time for your body to adjust. It took years for your body to become metabolically unhealthy and it can take some time to heal. No magic bullets or formulas here, just a lifetime of eating healthy.

Fried liverwurst and scrambled eggs. Good stuff if you like liverwurst.

Got up early this morning so I ate early with a bacon and cheese omelette. Tgen I slow smoked this beauty for 12 hours. Pork butt, it’s what’s for dinner.

That good news. Mine was at a 22 but is now down to 8. I’ve been able to get off of the Bipap machine and go to a dental mouthpiece.

Was out hunting all day so I just fasted.

When I started carnivore I had a nice garden that I had been cultivating ever since I retired back in 2020. I started out just trying carni for 30 days to see what would happen. I saw enough improvement that I wanted to see what another 30 days would do. The improvements were so good after 60 days I just had to do 30 more days. After 90 days I knew that I would eat this way for the rest of my life. I saw no reason after that to keep up my garden. I’m not one to waste energy on something I’m not going to benefit from. Now I was and am a pretty strict carnivore but that’s just what I prefer. It’s simple and suits me well. My advice would be to at least go strict carnivore until you become fat adapted and heal. Then slowly add one vegetable back in at a time and see if it bothers you. If not then you can keep it but if it causes inflammation then it’s out. You may find that vegetables don’t affect you or you may find a particular one or two that aggravate you. Eating meat and whole food vegetables is not a bad way of eating if it doesn’t affect you and you really like veggies. I just wouldn’t eat any starchy ones. It’s more important in my opinion to eliminate all sugars, grains, seed oils and highly processed foods.

Is it any wonder that 75% of the American population is overweight and 50% are obese? This example of a typical school lunch menu shows how we are training up our children.

Love me some Maldon’s. I use both the flakes and the smoked. Finished off the lamb I smoked the other day while making four pounds of liverwurst. the liver came from a steer that my daughter just had processed the other day. Her and her family don’t eat organs so I always get the liver, heart and kidneys.

Welcome Saxguy, musician? We are glad you could join us and we are here to support you any way we can. There is a wealth of knowledge and experience to draw from in this group. Lotta good folks around here. I know for me keto cannot work because it allows carbs to be a part of the diet and being a carb addict that just doesn’t work. Kinda like an alcoholic only drinking beer instead of whiskey. Just makes me want more. That may be why you struggled in the past. I hope you are able to stick with carnivore this time but to succeed you are going to have to want to succeed. Don’t focus on long term goals but just focus on getting through today and treat every day like that. Before you know it you’ll have 90 days behind you and discover you’ve kicked the addiction. You can do this brother, just remember, There is no food on earth that tastes as good as feeling healthy.

Nice ribeye today.