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When I started carnivore I had a nice garden that I had been cultivating ever since I retired back in 2020. I started out just trying carni for 30 days to see what would happen. I saw enough improvement that I wanted to see what another 30 days would do. The improvements were so good after 60 days I just had to do 30 more days. After 90 days I knew that I would eat this way for the rest of my life. I saw no reason after that to keep up my garden. I’m not one to waste energy on something I’m not going to benefit from. Now I was and am a pretty strict carnivore but that’s just what I prefer. It’s simple and suits me well. My advice would be to at least go strict carnivore until you become fat adapted and heal. Then slowly add one vegetable back in at a time and see if it bothers you. If not then you can keep it but if it causes inflammation then it’s out. You may find that vegetables don’t affect you or you may find a particular one or two that aggravate you. Eating meat and whole food vegetables is not a bad way of eating if it doesn’t affect you and you really like veggies. I just wouldn’t eat any starchy ones. It’s more important in my opinion to eliminate all sugars, grains, seed oils and highly processed foods.

Is it any wonder that 75% of the American population is overweight and 50% are obese? This example of a typical school lunch menu shows how we are training up our children.

Love me some Maldon’s. I use both the flakes and the smoked. Finished off the lamb I smoked the other day while making four pounds of liverwurst. the liver came from a steer that my daughter just had processed the other day. Her and her family don’t eat organs so I always get the liver, heart and kidneys.

Welcome Saxguy, musician? We are glad you could join us and we are here to support you any way we can. There is a wealth of knowledge and experience to draw from in this group. Lotta good folks around here. I know for me keto cannot work because it allows carbs to be a part of the diet and being a carb addict that just doesn’t work. Kinda like an alcoholic only drinking beer instead of whiskey. Just makes me want more. That may be why you struggled in the past. I hope you are able to stick with carnivore this time but to succeed you are going to have to want to succeed. Don’t focus on long term goals but just focus on getting through today and treat every day like that. Before you know it you’ll have 90 days behind you and discover you’ve kicked the addiction. You can do this brother, just remember, There is no food on earth that tastes as good as feeling healthy.

Nice ribeye today.

They are still a little young to put in the freezer just yet but I’m looking forward that day when I can.

I’m afraid not. I came here after it became Carnivore Talk. So are you keto, carnivore and if so how are you getting along?

I believe that can happen. It’s an extreme shock to the system to go through surgery. Anesthesia can have a profound affect as well that can last for weeks or even months depending on your age.

Because you are now fat adapted that fat is your fuel hence the rush would be my guess.

Interesting video. I find it interesting that his first charts looked like his lower numbers were falling within the recommended fasting window but his final chart it seemed that they were outside that window. I can’t see the charts very well on my phone but they were still very close to the recommended fasting window. It’s still very interesting though and definitely needs further study. I’d love to see more people trying this to see if they can correlate his findings. In fact it would be great if you could try this and report back your findings. Of course we have to remember that he was an N of 1 and just because this worked in his body doesn’t mean it works the same for everyone. The thing about fasting blood test is that they are not just centered around test cholesterol. There are other things being tested as well that a longer fast may affect negatively as was in my case. I should have clarified when I said that fasting took long and I believe it was over 24 hours, messed up my numbers it wasn’t my cholesterol, those numbers are great, but it was my A1b and glucose numbers that were off. If his test can prove significant among a greater population then it would definitely be a good idea to make a blood test for cholesterol totally separate from any other with a different fasting window. Good video, thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I am nearly in the same boat as you. I haven’t been one of the carnivores that get a great nights sleep. I only get 4-5 hours sleep a night. I will wake up multiple times throughout the night. If I go to bed at 10 I will wake up by 2. If I go to bed around 11 or 12 I’ll wake up around 3 or 4. I’ll go back to sleep if I can but sometimes it’s just impossible. It’s pretty much guaranteed I’m going to get up a 5 am. I like getting up at 5 because it gives me about 2 hours alone time before anyone gets up to do my devotionals, Bible study and reading. I’m retired but it doesn’t seem to matter how hard I work that day or how little it’s always the same. I’ve spend pretty much all my life getting up between 3 and 5 in the morning so I just figured it’s a habit for me. I also start getting tired around 9 pm myself but I don’t dare go to bed too early. I’m I eat pretty strict carnivore and while I used to take a magnesium complex I haven’t taken any in over a month now. There’s been no change either way. I emphasize with you but I have no idea how to change it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Fasting prior to a blood test should only be 8-12 hours. I’ve made the mistake of fasting for 24 hours and it screwed up my results. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Welcome Merlin. I personally have no experience with kidney disease but Bob the owner of this forum does. He has stage 4 kidney disease and is doing well as a carnivore. I’m sure he will be along shortly to answer any questions you have. I have never heard anyone express the fat to protein ratio by volume versus weight. It is generally a weight to weight ratio. There are no set rules to how we do carnivore because it’s subjective to the individual. We are all different so we have to adjust the diet to what our bodies require. We generally start of with a baseline or foundation as I like to call it of a 70% fat to 30% protein ratio. Some do better with less fat while others do well with more fat. Equal amounts of protein and fat by weight are 31% protein and 69% fat by caloric content. (Protein contains roughly 4 (k)cal/g, whereas fats average around 9 (k)cal/g.) The general consensus is, If your goal is weight loss, aim for 1g of protein per pound of your goal body weight and then add high quality animal fat to this until satiety. This will usually end up being about 1:1 fat to protein ratio in terms of gram. This ratio translates to about 70% of calories from fat and 30% of calories from protein You may find that some recommend 1.5 grams of protein while others recommend 2 grams but 1 gram is a good place to start. I personally have never measured any of my food. If you eat fatty meat, cook it in fat and if it’s lean use the fat drippings as a gravy or dip it in butter you should meet the ratio requirements. If you are the analytical type then you might enjoy measuring your food.

For more information on what causes cardiovascular diseases and what doesn’t. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Steak, eggs and bacon today. The trinity.

You are correct sir. Lol!

That’s fantastic! You’ve got nothing to worry about. You are at less than 1. Keep rockin on man. 👍

Not a problem Scott. This is an open forum and we can only help each other when we are open and honest. Anyways, I never had a moment when I “felt” like I didn’t need my medicine although I did wonder if I didn’t need it anymore. It was actually my cardiologist that made the decisions based solely on my what my body was doing. In the first three or four months he took me off of the Metropol because it was taking my blood pressure too low. When it hit 75/54 he said get off of that NOW. My diet had brought my BP down to normal levels and the medication was bringing it down too low artificially. After that my cardiologist made the decision to cut my second medication (Flecinide) in half at about the 6th or 8th month because I was doing so well with losing weight and getting healthy. My EEG’s were coming out perfect. My heart palpitations and PVC’s were down from 8-12 a day to maybe once a day. After another six months he took me off of the medication completely because after a year I was still improving and it looked like I could maintain my eating lifestyle. My palpitations are reduced to maybe one or two a week and they are so mild I barely notice them. My cardiologist said that I have done more to heal myself than anything he could have done for me. He has also put me on a once a year schedule now. He also knows that I’m carnivore and is just thrilled with my progress and results. None of this was my decision but his because of the results he was seeing. Your cholesterol numbers are just fine, in fact your HDL to Triglycerides ratio is good at a 2 and shows no indication of cardiovascular risk. It would be better if it were less than 1.5 but 2 is still good. Give your diet more time and it souls get there. I can’t tell you what to do as it’s all your decision but your numbers are similar to mine and there is no way that I would be willing to take any kind of medication for my cholesterol when it’s just fine the way it is. Every study I’ve seen on the subject showed that those with low cholesterol were at a greater risk for all cause mortality and those with higher cholesterol, especially in my age range tend to live longer. I’m not a gambler but I’ll take those odds.

I have seen this in other people and it’s not common but from what I’ve read it’s not completely uncommon for our numbers to go up especially in the beginning. Remember that your cells are using fat for energy instead of glucose. Fat needs to be transported in the blood inside lipoproteins (because fat can't mix with water/blood). So it is only natural that your cholesterols would increase when you are fat adapted. I would definitely give it more time before I got too concerned about it. It may level out more after you become fully fat adapted.

Wow! That video is still circulating? That’s cool. I appreciate the advice on vitamin C. It’s been awhile since that video interview and in that time my system seems to have started to straighten out on its own. Taking a magnesium complex was helping but in the last month I haven’t need it. So I’m hoping I may finally be normal. But I will definitely keep your recommendation on file incase things turn back the other way.

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I was on the road yesterday and talking with my wife about this video and it dawned on me that I could take this up another notch. I was coming back from Louisiana and I love Cajun food and especially crawfish and it hit me, don’t just boil the catfish but use crawfish boil seasoned water just like you would with crawfish. My next mess of cars I’m gonna try this. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’ve been I Louisiana for a couple of days visiting family. I got home last night. In those two days I just never found the time to eat much. I just had a ribeye each day. When I weighed this morning I had lost 3 pounds. [emoji15] Dang!!! I was already at the minimum weight for my height and age. I don’t need to go any lower than that so I ate two meals today. Chorizo and egg tacos for brunch, and this evening a pound of Diezmillo steak. Sorry no pic of the steaks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

On my last blood test my total cholesterol count was 269. LDL (which is technically not a cholesterol) was 190. Triglycerides were 66. HDL was 66. Like Scott, my doctor is thrilled with my progress but also preaches low fat. He just doesn’t understand the significance of eating a high fat diet when you don’t eat carbohydrates. He also wants me on a statin but here’s why I will not go on a statin. They don’t do anything for your health. Absolutely nothing. If you have had a heart attack they may provide some benefit according to a carnivore cardiologist I listened to but they can only extend your life by 3-5 days. Sorry but that’s just not worth the side affects of that drug. Now let’s look at LDL. High LDL does not cause or contribute to cardiovascular disease. There has never been any evidence to prove otherwise. Now you didn’t post up your HDL and triglycerides. Those are the real indicators of cardiovascular risk. Ideally we want our Triglycerides to be less than 100 our HDL greater than 50. We then divide the triglycerides by the HDL to get our relative risk. We are looking for a number less than 2 and preferably less than 1.5. When you do the math on my ratio it comes out to a 1. I’ll take that all day long. I’m not the least bit concerned about my cholesterol because it’s normal on a carnivore diet because as we are using fat for fuel there is naturally going to be more cholesterol running around in the blood stream and that’s a good thing. I have a heart condition that appears to have been reversed by eating carnivore and my cardiologist whole heartedly supports my diet. He has taken me off of all my medications and says I’ve done more to heal myself than anything he could have done for me. He has also put me on a once a year visit just to see how I’m doing. You can do what you want Gary it’s totally up to you but I would like to encourage you to not fear the the fat. It’s what our lifestyle is all about. I will also add, do not let your doctor pressure you into doing something that you don’t want to do. This is your life and your health and you are in charge. Make informed decisions. Good luck Gary and welcome to Carnivore Talk.