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Hello ,

I need to explain and ask a question.

I had only hypothyroidism and extra body weight when starting in 2022

2022 I went carnavore lost 48 lbs in 4 months. Cholestrol was a little high. Doc said not to worry it will come down now that your eatting carbs.

But all tests otherwise came back purfect even lowering tyroid meds then.

2024/2025

After a accident and unable to do much I gained 40 pounds back and now I'm insulin resistant Pcos very high cholesterol and triglycerides. And a egfr of 59*

Doctor told me to go either on glp1 or keto .I chose keto so doctor put me on low fat meat and veggies. Also added fenofibrate which i just started and wants me to take a statin which I have but not taken and drink 119 ounces of water a day.

So my questions is.. will this help any? I watched the vedio on where you said you were on fenofibrate. But I'm still confused.

Any help would be appreciated.

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  • If your doctor wants you to eat low fat then he/she knows nothing about keto and even less about carnivore. I wouldn’t take a statin simply because they do nothing for you and only produce side effec

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8 hours ago, Angel SAR said:

fenofibrate

For some reason this word frightens me.

Just clean up your diet for good. When you get better look around at appreciate how much better you feel. Leave the meds and the garbage foods in the bin where they belong

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I don't normally chime in on 'other people and their medicines' as that is between you and your doctor and becomes a personal choice, but.....

I am assuming that after the accident there was shift in diet as well?

I would think you have already seen the results of going carnivore once and I feel like you could expect the same, or at least similar results by giving it another try.

Personally, I am not a fan of statins. I had adverse reactions, certain beliefs in what it did to me (no medical affirmation, but a strong personal opinion) and have not read hardly anything positive.

I'd be hard-pressed to take a statin anyway, but if I already knew the positives of carnivore, I think I would go that way.

best of luck and I hope you find what works best for you.

Scott

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48 minutes ago, Scott F. said:

I don't normally chime in on 'other people and their medicines' as that is between you and your doctor and becomes a personal choice, but.....

I am assuming that after the accident there was shift in diet as well?

I would think you have already seen the results of going carnivore once and I feel like you could expect the same, or at least similar results by giving it another try.

Personally, I am not a fan of statins. I had adverse reactions, certain beliefs in what it did to me (no medical affirmation, but a strong personal opinion) and have not read hardly anything positive.

I'd be hard-pressed to take a statin anyway, but if I already knew the positives of carnivore, I think I would go that way.

best of luck and I hope you find what works best for you.

Scott

Yes there was a change in habit. ate what was served . Sure I could have complained but I was in no position to. I'll add fats to the diet and take the fenofibrate as well till I have labs I plan on doing myself in 3 weeks. If the trigs are down I won't be taking them anymore. Trust me the Statin rosuvastatin* they gave me I have no plans of adding. I just picked them up so the Mil. Doc doesn't realize I didn't take them. The Fenofibrate isn't a statin according to research I did . But want to thank everyone who responded it's preaty much the way I was gonna go.

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11 hours ago, Angel SAR said:

After a accident and unable to do much I gained 40 pounds back and now I'm insulin resistant Pcos very high cholesterol and triglycerides. And a egfr of 59*

Likely ALL of that is (poor) diet related. High carb high sugar diet brought back the weight, made you insulin resistant, and is likely the cause in the rise of your triglycerides. Your eGFR indicates you are on the cusp of Stage 3a Chronic Kidney Disease.

You had success before on a keto-carnivore diet, and you can have success again. I would make returning to and sticking to a proper human diet (carnivore or carnivore-centric keto/ketovore) your primary goal.

Yes, cholesterol may go up. We do not worry about that. Trigs usually drop dramatically, but in my case they actually went up because of my kidney disease.

I no longer recommend fenofibrate. I was on it for a year, and it tanked my kidneys, and I was deep into stage 5 renal failure for a while. I am currently reversing the damage done. If you remain on fenofibrate, get blood labs regularly and watch that creatinine and eGFR. If creatinine rises and eGFR comes down, get off if it immediately.

Those trigs might go up during active weight loss but will eventually come down when you reach a goal weight and remain weight stable for several months. Omega-3 supplementation (fish oil) has been known to help lower trigs.

I should have recognized the adverse effects of fenofibrates such as muscle twitching, late night leg cramps, and more, but I passed it off as an electrolyte imbalance due to my kidneys. I don't take fenofibrate nor any electrolytes anymore and I am fine.

11 hours ago, Angel SAR said:

I chose keto so doctor put me on low fat meat and veggies.

But you want to eat fatty meat, not lean meat. In the absence of carbs, fat is your energy, and your goal is to become fat adapted.

The vegetables are optional. Either eliminate them altogether or only eat the low carb cruciferous kind while weight loss and healing are your goals. Later in life you can occasionally treat yourself/toy with a few more single-ingredient plants or fruits, but you have goals to reach first and one of them is getting the addiction to carbs and sweet tasting things under control.

11 hours ago, Angel SAR said:

So my questions is.. will this help any? I watched the vedio on where you said you were on fenofibrate. But I'm still confused.

So my experience with fenofibrate ended in a nightmare. There is a part of me that wants to take the video down, but at the same time the explanation of what's happening in the body and everything else is still good information.

Now I would do diet first. Today I only take meds for blood pressure and that's it.

My LDL varies between 200 and 300 and I am not worried. My trigs were up to 2887 at their highest as you know from the video. Fenofribrate brought them down to about 555. And believe it or not, I just tested again 2 days ago after being off fenofibrate since last November (6 months now) and my trigs were 222, proving they would have come down on their own eventually (I do take fish oil).

Yes, they say high trigs increases your "risk" of heart disease, but I am still alive and well. "Risk" is relative and so much goes into "risk". Most people who have high trigs eat candy, cakes, cookies, pies, chips, donuts, and other high carb junk foods. But that's not me. My trigs are high for an entirely different reason (most likely that I spill lipoprotein lipase in my urine due to my CKD). So were my trigs still a relative higher "risk". Maybe. I'm not so sure.

Now with that said, I know people who take fenofibrate with no issues at all, such as my father. And I know doctors who take statins. For example, Dr. Ford Brewer takes a very low dose rosuvastatin, not for it's LDL lowering effects, but because it helps keep down inflammation. Sure there is a time and a place for these things, but I personally believe that most medications should be temporary, not lifelong, and one's goal is to get to the root cause and fix the issue, which is usually diet and nutrition.

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