Hi all, was recommended to join here after chatting in the live on last night's Youtube video. 1 year ago I began eating a keto-vore type diet. Initially lost about 15 pounds and then nothing. Plateaued for months. At 9 months in, I developed a very itchy rash all over my flanks and armpits. So itchy that I could barely sleep. My energy felt like I was running on motor oil instead of gasoline as well. I asked around the carnivore space for help and was told the same 3 things over and over again: 1. you're oxalate dumping, add more electrolytes to support. 2. Just keep going, it will pass. 3. You must be doing your diet wrong.

I lasted another 3 weeks and had to bail on the diet. I wasn't sure if what I was experiencing was directly caused by the diet, but after adding carbs back in the itch began to go away after 3 days. And after 5 days the rash was gone. After this, my diet returned to the SAD diet and I gained about 10 pounds back.

Today, I am 3.5 weeks into the sugar diet. I've lost 9 pounds and I feel good up to this point.

Let me be clear... I don't think this is healthy when done for extended periods of time. There is no optimal human health when the diet excludes meat.

Currently I weigh 226 lbs. Goal is 175.

21 hours ago, ketomonster said:

That's totally fine then, hopefully by the time you finish the sugar diet someone will have popularized a keto candy diet. I do know the filipinos pour sugar on their spaghetti and they love it. Anyway wherever your diets takes you I hope you do well.

This reminds me of the movie Elf

haha good movie

On 6/5/2025 at 3:01 PM, Nick Heaz said:

I tried to wait it out for a few weeks after it first appeared but it was unbearable. Adding carbs back into my diet cleared it entirely within 5 days.

This experience intrigues me. That it was concentrated on your flanks and armpits does sound more like an allergic reaction to me. I doubt it was oxalate dumping.

When you added carbs back in, did you also at the same time cut out or cut down on (reduce) something else you were previously eating? For example, let pretend you were eating bacon. Pigs are monogastric animals. The factory farm where that particular pig, or lot of pigs (or may you started buying a different brand) may have had their usual feed changed. Maybe they switched suppliers. Maybe these pigs consumed something they shouldn't have. Being monogastric, contaminants get into their fleshy parts, and you had an allergic reaction to this. And then when you added back in carbs, you also eliminated or reduced the consumption of something else. Not intentionally, but just because there is a limit to how much you need to eat and were satisfied with the carbs.

It can be quite complex, so I can understand why it would have been hard to pinpoint. You have to go through the trying different brands, eliminating certain animals, trying local sourced over grocery store meats, etc, all in an effort to find relief.

I've seen a few children who were allergic to amoxicillin and broke out in a rash in their abdomen and armpits. Probably because digestion occurs in the abdomen, so the reaction starts there and branches out from there.

On 6/5/2025 at 6:35 PM, Nick Heaz said:

I have not experienced fluctuating energy during the day. After coming off a keto-carnivore diet and then spending about a month on the standard American diet, now going on 4 weeks with the sugar diet—and honestly, my energy feels better now than it ever did on keto-carnivore.

This makes sense. Carbs can be utilized for energy almost immediately. This is why some people will be carnivore until it's time to hit the gym, and then they will load up on fruit or a sweet potato or something.