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If you're approach to eating is keto, then you might be able to make room for a little nut butter here and there. Some causes for concern would be the sugar content, and if it's made with any seed oils. Nuts are seeds, and seeds tend to be high in plant defense chemicals that may, or may not, fuel underlying health conditions. So it depends on what your health goals are? Are you trying to lose weight, reverse disease, or just trying to eat more whole foods and less processed foods? Right now in my journey, I am mostly carnivore (with spices) most days, and will rarely, but occasionally, eat a piece of fruit or a vegetable that is actually the fruitage of a plant. I still live under my mantra of refusing to eat roots, stems, seeds, and leaves.
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Welcome aboard Laura. We look forward to seeing your progress and helping out wherever we can.
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. I have Stage 4 Chronic Kidney Disease and have been eating a Carnivore Diet for over a year now. Am I killing my kidneys with all that protein, or am I healing them? Modern medicine teaches that protein is hard on the kidneys, especially for those with CKD, so am I taking a big risk here? Can a person with CKD eat a Carnivore Diet or meat-heavy carnivore-centric keto diet? Should those with healthy kidneys eat low protein and avoid red meat in order to protect their kidney function? I discuss all these questions in this video. JOIN me and my keto-carnivore friends over at https://www.CarnivoreTalk.com Have YOU had success with a meat-based keto, ketovore, carnivore, carnivore-centric, or animal-based diet? Let's do a video together! Contact me using this form... https://carnivoretalk.com/contact/ 00:00 Introduction 00:32 The Protein Myth 02:06 What does the research reveal? 04:12 Protein is Vital 05:06 I have Stage 4 CKD 07:12 Why the Carnivore Diet? 09:56 My Results and Bloodwork 11:56 Why Creatinine goes UP 14:21 Cystatin C and other Markers 15:58 What actually caused my CKD? DISCLAIMER: The Carnivore Talk website and its audio and video content is for general informational purposes only. The use of the information found within our content or from materials linked to from our content is at the user’s own risk. The content published by Carnivore Talk is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should seek the assistance of their health care professionals to obtain medical advice and to diagnose or treat any condition. #carnivore #carnivorediet #ketodiet #chronickidneydisease #ckd #kidneydisease #kidneyhealth
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. I have Stage 4 Chronic Kidney Disease and have been eating a Carnivore Diet for over a year now. Am I killing my kidneys with all that protein, or am I healing them? Modern medicine teaches that protein is hard on the kidneys, especially for those with CKD, so am I taking a big risk here? Can a person with CKD eat a Carnivore Diet or meat-heavy carnivore-centric keto diet? Should those with healthy kidneys eat low protein and avoid red meat in order to protect their kidney function? I discuss all these questions in this video. JOIN me and my keto-carnivore friends over at https://www.CarnivoreTalk.com Have YOU had success with a meat-based keto, ketovore, carnivore, carnivore-centric, or animal-based diet? Let's do a video together! Contact me using this form... https://carnivoretalk.com/contact/ 00:00 Introduction 00:32 The Protein Myth 02:06 What does the research reveal? 04:12 Protein is Vital 05:06 I have Stage 4 CKD 07:12 Why the Carnivore Diet? 09:56 My Results and Bloodwork 11:56 Why Creatinine goes UP 14:21 Cystatin C and other Markers 15:58 What actually caused my CKD? DISCLAIMER: The Carnivore Talk website and its audio and video content is for general informational purposes only. The use of the information found within our content or from materials linked to from our content is at the user’s own risk. The content published by Carnivore Talk is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should seek the assistance of their health care professionals to obtain medical advice and to diagnose or treat any condition. #carnivore #carnivorediet #ketodiet #chronickidneydisease #ckd #kidneydisease #kidneyhealth View full episode
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This is 303.56 mg/dl for us USA folks The general consensus in the keto-carnivore community is No. If you are eating a Proper Human Diet (i.e. carnivore, keto, ketovore, maybe a delicate step towards animal-bases), and all your other numbers are looking good, then LDL is not a number of concern. Mine went up. As I lost weight it skyrocketed into the 500's but now that I have been weight-stable for the last 8 months it has dropped back into the 200's.
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What Did You Eat Today?
Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
Typical breakfast of eggs, sausage, and cheese... And then dinner later that night, taco seasoned beef with a couple eggs over top...- 1,369 replies
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Hello everyone! New here. Terrible Anxiety
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Some people report not needing as much sleep as they used to. And then others, like myself, have become biphasic - that is, sleep in 2 stages instead of one long 8 hour rest. I sleep from around 11pm or midnight to 2 or 3am, then I get up for an hour, and then I go back to sleep again and then wake up at 7am or so. It's been like this since shortly after starting carnivore and it has never gone away. I don't let it bother me though. I've just accepted it. Try not to eat within 4 hours of bedtime. If I eat late, I can't sleep. My body wants to expend that energy. Aim for at least 1g of fat for every 1g of protein. I'm glad to hear that. This proves that this is good for you overall. What kind of carbs? If you mean sugar and grain and the standard western diet, then yeah, you'll feel awful. But, if you can stay mostly carnivore and then occasionally eat ketovore or animal-based (i.e. fruit) you should still feel alright, provided you're just getting a small amount of carbs here and there and not binging on fruit all day, lol. -
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I've been a good boy all week. Eggs and/or sausage in the morning. Beef patties or New York strips for my dinners. I buy in bulk (Sam's Club) so I do a lot of repetitive eating so nothing goes bad.- 1,369 replies
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so... when do benefits appear?
Bob replied to johnnypepperoni's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
Listen, here you are the newbie. We don't know you, nor do we know what advice others have given you over the years. Repeating advice is bound to happen, especially when said advice proves to be beneficial for most people who apply it. We're sorry if it's not working for you, assuming that you are actually honestly applying it. Please understand that we want to help you, and we hope to see you succeed. Telling another member who is demonstrating concern for you to "take a hike" is unwarranted. As a reminder, here is an excerpt from the Membership Policy you were required to read and agree to upon joining... "Speech & Conduct 2) Be kind. Do not post statements or materials that are libelous or defame, harass, abuse, stalk, threaten, intimidate or in any way infringe on the rights of others. 10) No Trolling. Do not post off-topic comments that could cause unrest or disturbances among members and within discussions. This community does not tolerate direct or indirect attacks on another's character, nor does it tolerate deliberate attempts to derail, hijack, troll or bait others into an emotional response. We reserve the right to remove these types of comments if warranted. Individuals who consistently or intentionally post these types of comments may lose their ability to comment permanently." -
Welcome aboard Emmerson! It sounds like you are moving in the right direction. Since you have some weight to lose and some healing you are hoping to accomplish, I would defintely focus on being keto, ketovore, or carnivore. Keto = less than 20 actual carbs per day. (Half your plate fatty meat, the other half low carb veggies). Ketovore = less than 10 actual carbs per day. (3/4 plate fatty meat, 1/4 plate low carb veg). Carnivore = trace carbs (still a little carbs in meat, eggs, etc), nearly zero carb. Animal products only. You will want to cut out the fruit and probably milk as well, as the fruit is full of fructose (sugar) and the milk will have lactose (sugar) which are carbs. You might be able to reintroduce these at a later time. You can by all means gradually wean yourself off of them as you work your way to carnivore. But just know that until you've given them up completely for a period of time, they might still play games with your cravings.
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Welcome Darcy. That's my aunt's name We're a pretty friendly group here. We haven't been overrun by the overly dogmatic folks yet, lol. By definition, a "carnivore" is an organism that eats mostly meat. Hypercarnivores consume 70% or more of their diet from meat (all Obligate carnivores such as cats are Hyercarnvores). Bart Kay would say humans are hypercarnivores. Mesocarnivores (such as a fox) consume at least 50% meat, and Hypocarnivores (such as a bear) consume 30% or less meat. The latter are also considered Omnivores. I basically believe in a "carnivore-centric" diet that is all-natural. I'm strict carnivore most of the time, but if I'm gonna "cheat", I'm going to cheat with something keto, such as some salsa, a cucumber or pickle, or in about another week, the low hanging tiny little apples in the apple trees in my back yard. Depending on one's personal physiology and current health conditions, I'll recommend anything from a strict Lion Diet to a bizarre marriage of Ken Berry's Proper Human Diet and Paul Saladino's Animal-Based diet (which I think is TOO HIGH in carbs, which is why I use the term "carnivore-centric").
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so... when do benefits appear?
Bob replied to johnnypepperoni's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
It's true that ketogenic diets, including a strict carnivore or Lion Diet, and seemingly feel "miraculous" to certain individuals who struggled with health, well-being, and weight management all their lives and when they finally stumbled on this, by golly it worked. But at the same time there are still thousands of people who have not been able to come off their meds completely. Perhaps they could only reduce their dosage. Perhaps nothing changed at all. For example, while I have reversed about half a dozen of my chronic conditions, I still have stage 4 chronic kidney disease. I'm jealous of the testimonies of those who have reversed their kidney disease, but I am starting to come to the realization that I am not going to be one of them. Regardless, I've experienced enough benefits to stick with this a carnivore-centric (not even necessarily strict carnivore) for life. If your issues can be traced back to being born prematurely, then is diet really going to fix it? It might help. It might not. Like @Orweller said, sometimes the cause of mental issues stems from other issues. My daughter suffers from depression that comes along in conjunction with PTSD. She can eat a proper human diet, but it doesn't erase the trauma. It may only help her deal with it. I had mental and emotional instability problems myself. I didn't observe any specific turning point. Over time, it just dawned on me that I had been mentally and emotionally stable for a several months, which was unusual. Now I am aware of the improvement, but it was in retrospect. If you have been on medication, I wouldn't not stop taking it cold turkey. Stick with this plan for 90 or 120 days to give your body plenty of time to adjust. Maybe you will find yourself in the enviable position of gradually lowering your dose and weaning yourself off the meds. And of course, maybe not. Some people don't do well with dairy. Some people can't do egg whites. Some people need to supplement electrolytes. Have you had your vitamin D checked? -
This is an old study, and I think one of the subjects was Val Steffanson himself.
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Anyone Know Any Benefits From Cured Meats?
Bob replied to Nowler's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
There's very little difference between the three. Not enough for me to worry about. The nutrients in meat, such as protein and minerals, are pretty resistant to heat. If you cook meat in liquid (as in a stew or soup), some of the minerals and protein may leach from the meat into the cooking liquid. But if you consume the broth, little will be lost. -
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I haven't seen the movie, but I remember when I was a kid this was a problem. Most plastics weren't "microwave safe" nor even "dishwasher safe". But then microwave/dishwasher safe plastics started hitting the market. I think many of us took that for granted until recently as microplastics are becoming a hot news item. I know I no longer microwave anything in plastic. I went out and got a bunch of glass storage containers instead.
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This is because you've found something that is not only taking off the weight but is literally making you feel like a million bucks compared to your previous lifestyle and habits. You have a newfound resolve and a strong focus to go along with it. In the same manner, I can deviate a little here and a little there (and I mean, RARELY) and I know it's not going to derail me and send me on a bender. In the past, I would cheat and then couldn't stop, and next thing I know I was up 40 pounds again. This time I am more disciplined, thanks to carnivore. You said as much yourself here... Focus! My condolences. A friend of mine who used to work for me went through something similar, in that he was diagnosed with COPD. He could have bought himself several more years, but just couldn't give up the smokes.
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Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
Forgive me Atkins for I hath sinned, lol. I had a beer yesterday. And the night before I went to the Kent Heritage Festival here in Kent, Ohio and I saw a gyro vendor. I explained my diet to them and they agreed to give me a plate of extra meat (for an extra price) with no pita bread. I still had the tzatziki sauce and a few diced tomatoes on it. I believe gyro loaf, even the big log that rotates on a spit, actually has some breading in it. Between the gyro Saturday and the can of beer Sunday, I am up from 177 to 180. Whenever I see 180 this is what goes on in my head, lol....- 1,369 replies
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Two men lived on an exclusive meat diet for 1 year and a third man for 10 days. The relative amounts of lean and fat, meat ingested were left to the instinctive choice of the individuals. At the end of the year, the subjects were mentally alert, physically active, and showed no specific physical changes in any system of the body. Vitamin deficiencies did not appear. Kidney function tests revealed no evidence of kidney damage. In these trained subjects, the clinical observations and laboratory studies gave no evidence that any ill effects had occurred from the prolonged use of the exclusive meat diet.-
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View File Prolonged Meat Diets with a Study of Kidney Function and Ketosis Two men lived on an exclusive meat diet for 1 year and a third man for 10 days. The relative amounts of lean and fat, meat ingested were left to the instinctive choice of the individuals. At the end of the year, the subjects were mentally alert, physically active, and showed no specific physical changes in any system of the body. Vitamin deficiencies did not appear. Kidney function tests revealed no evidence of kidney damage. In these trained subjects, the clinical observations and laboratory studies gave no evidence that any ill effects had occurred from the prolonged use of the exclusive meat diet. Submitter Bob Submitted 07/04/2024 Category Research Studies
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Try logging everything for a while -> Calories, Fat, and Protein. Yes, we often hear "calories don't matter" and while that is true, it can still serve to gauge just how much you are eating, and whether you are undereating. Fat and Protein ratios are what is important here. At a minimum, you should aim to have at least 1g of fat for every 1g of protein you consume. A 1:1 protein to fat consumption results in 30/70 protein calories to fat calories. Some people like to push their fat up to 80% of daily calories. Some people find that when they nix the coffee they do much better. Others still enjoy their coffee just fine. At only 18 days in, I do think you could still be adjusting. Some people take weeks before they return to the level of gym activity they were able to do before carnivore. Let's do some logging and check the results. If you are eating too lean (which it doesn't sound like you are) or too little, then your body might slow down your metabolism and try to conserve energy, which you could be feeling. Looks like you are 11 pounds down in 3 weeks, which is fantastic. It would be better than nothing. If you take 1 pill, you are getting 1/6th of the nutrients in what the manufacturer considers a "serving". Two pills would be 1/3 of a serving, three pills would be 50% of a serving, etc. Any amount you take will contain vitamins and nutrients, beyond what you would be getting if you didn't take it at all. From what I understand, men should be 13 or higher, and women 12 or higher. Anything in the 14.x range would be great for both sexes. B12 and Iron help with increasing hemoglobin levels. So if you're new high of 14 is after a few weeks as a carnivore, this would make sense.
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That's awesome! That's also a long hike. I may have walked up to 10 miles in a day before, but probably not. A couple days ago it dropped down in the upper 50's and lower 60's, which is incredibly unseasonably cool for this time of year. Fortunately it was just for a day or two and now things have heated back up.
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@Mosey, welcome aboard! Let me start by saying that I am sorry this post spent 22 hours in the queue waiting for approval. For some reason, I wasn't notified. I should probably give another member super powers to approve posts. So there could be a couple things at play here. Can you give an example of your daily food intake? Are you trim and lean or do you have some weight to lose? Knowing this might be helpful in giving suggestions that pertains to you personally. Yeah, that was the serving size when I was taking "Ancestral Supplements" Beef Organ Complex. Of course, you can also choose to take 1,2,3, or 4 capsules instead of all 6. Alternatively, you can buy some liver (or other organs), dice it up and freeze it, and then take it like a pill with some water. Isn't that in the normal range (g/dl)? Mine is always between 14.2 and 14.5 and it's always flagged as normal.
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Carnivore For Life, Despite Complications [Video/Podcast]
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The fun part was my wife hid the scale when I broke my ankle, because I would weigh in every morning. So I actually went over a month without weighing in, and when I finally did, I was another 10 pounds down - to which I was delighted.- 15 replies
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Bob replied to Geezy's topic in Carnivore, Meat-based Keto, & Ketovore Support
My family wants Mexican about once a month or so. It's incredibly difficult to stay true to pure carnivore without feeling like I am being ripped off, lol. My local place has a dish that has ribeye, chicken breast, and shrimp served on a sizzling skillet with a side of rice and guacamole salad. I'll pass the rice to one of the kids and eat the rest, basically falling back on keto for that one meal. The spices don't bother me any either. I also don't fret too much about whether they use seed oils or not. It's not gonna hurt me if I only have it once in a blue moon. A steakhouse on the other hand, I will tell them not to use it, that I am allergic and will drop dead in their dining room if they put it on my steak, lol. I just have that feeling that the Mexican's either wouldn't care or don't have any authentic butter in their kitchen anyway.- 1,369 replies
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