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So here in Ohio, we haven't had much of a winter. Winter has felt like spring. Nice above freezing temps. But now that it's the first couple days of Spring, we have freezing temps and snow. I swear the seasons are off and we need a leap month to correct them, lol.

You're absolutely right. Generally, I just love to see anyone get off the SAD diet. Animal-based can be a good start for some people, especially currently healthy ones. But those of us with weight issues, chronic disease, and sugar & food addiction need to start off more strict, because the natural sugars in fruit is going to be a trigger that sends you spiraling for cakes, cookies, and pies. 4. Low-carb animal-based (carnivore-based), allows some fruit - stay under 100 carbs. 3. Meat-based keto, no fruit, occasional berries - stay under 25 carbs. 2. Ketovore - very little vegetation - stay under 10 carbs. 1. True carnivore - zero plant matter - carbs will vary but close to zero. Some animal-based influencers are advocating 300-400 carbs a day, but that equals 1200-1600 calories per day coming from carbs/fructose. I personally don't see how you can call that "animal-based" when the majority of your calories are not coming from animals, lol.

Yeah, it's a struggle at Mexican Restaurants. Usually that's a moment when I just dip my toes back into ketovore for that particular meal. I try to avoid Mexican at all costs now but the wife and kids want to go there every so often.

Do you mean that you are having negative reactions to eating off plan? If so, that is a good motivator not to eat those particular foods ever again. That's the spirit. If you stumble, get right back up. And I mean the very next meal. Never think that since you blew one meal, that you can continue throwing off the rest of your day and "start tomorrow". You start again, right here, right now, just like you said. I don't have cravings anymore. But when I did, I would just eat/snack on something that was on plan.

So yesterday for breakfast I didn't have time to cook so I went through the Wendy's drive thru and got 3 sides of egg, 3 sides of sausage, and 3 sides of bacon. Less than $10 and still on plan For dinner, I had a beef kebob, a lamb kebob, and some giant sea scallops. I was actually impressed with the lamb meat and definitely want to add more of that to my diet.

The cauliflower Spanish "rice" was delicious and passed exceptionally well in lieu of the real thing. It's been almost a year since I have had this, since I've been hovering closer to carnivore end of the spectrum most of the time. My wife is sick of beef. I could probably surprise her with this, lol.

Interesting. I still do black tea and green tea, but these are not made from grains.

I did find it funny that the article referred to one of the names of this way of eating as a "carnivore diet", but I do get it. Animal-based diets that allow for fruit is kind of an off-shoot of the carnivore diet. I shared the article because we do support our Animal-based friends here and the article was fairly positive. Depending on your metabolic health and personal physiology, some people can tolerate a little fruit and even benefit from it, while others need to avoid it altogether.

I agree. Some who are just dipping their toes into low carb diets, but not committing to a strict whole food keto or carnivore diet, get interested in these, as does those who want to start adding back foods and want to see what said food does to their blood sugar levels. I know what works for me, so I don't have much of an interest myself.

This sounds like a big "Yes" to me. I don't think either the eggs or the fruit would have been a problem with regard to stools. Cheese can be if it is eaten in abundance. Quite a few people who do carnivore end up with electrolyte deficiencies in time. Since electrolytes seem to be helping, this may be true in your case also.

I've heard that 70-80% of humans cannot tolerate dairy. Carnivore is an elimination diet. Try eliminating the dairy, besides butter or ghee, and just eat meat and see how you fair. Stick to this for at least 30 days. Then if you want to attempt a cup of cream or a glass of milk, go ahead and see how you react. If you react badly or symptoms return, then you know you need to stay away from it. Some of us, like myself, can handle cheese. I even make a 'carnivore ice cream' with egg yolks and heavy cream once every 3-4 months also and I tolerate that as well.

Oh, I 100% agree. My comment was based on your introduction... I do think veganism can benefit someone with metabolic syndrome, "depending on what they are fed" I said. The vegan who eats junk food, bread, and sugary cereals and treats will only be compounding his problem, whereas the vegan who sticks to whole foods in their [mostly] natural state may see improvements. But in time, they will end up with other issues and eventually find their way to some degree of animal-based/carnivore nutrition for sure.

Welcome Nic, Yes, and it's most likely an electrolyte deficiency. Many people who do carnivore will use lots of salt and take a supplement like LMNT or Daily Minerals from Keto Chow. Electrolytes include sodium, chloride, magnesium, or potassium, calcium, bicarbonate, and phosphate. The usual suspect is a lack of magnesium. Now if you have kidney disease like I do, you have to be watchful when it comes to supplementing electrolytes. But if your kidneys are functioning normally then any extra you take will simply be excreted through the urine. I have to watch my potassium as I don't filter that out very well. On the other hand, I spill magnesium so I take 320-400mg per day of a blend in capsule form (a blend that does not give you diarrhea).

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I will say that I would have NEVER in a million years thought that food and healthcare were politicized. But I have learned a lot in the last year, how key individuals, for political and financial gain, have pushed "studies" about diet and nutrition that were completely false, even to the point of paying off and influencing government guidelines, all for the sake of lining their own pockets. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat

Have you seen the price of anything lately? Even bread and cereals are up. And comparatively speaking, ground beef and eggs still give you more bang for your buck. Not only are they cheaper per pound, but they are filling, so you will eat less instead of compulsively snacking all day long. Carnivore has not just been the best thing for my waistline, but it has also been the best thing for my wallet too.

This sounds like quite the undertaking, to ensure that all 30,000 individuals are eating on plan by assigning them what they are to eat. What is the souce of this study? Do you know when it will commence? Naturally, I would expect to see improvements to metabolic syndrome in carnivores, as well as vegans depending on what they are fed, and not much expectations from the S.A.D. dieters.

The symptoms may be related to the dairy intake. When you say "4 litres of cream" - do you mean milk or heavy cream or something else? It could be that you have lactose intolerance or a dairy allergy. If it's lactose intolerance, you can't have milk or dairy that contains natural milk sugars/carbs. If it's a sensitivity to the milk proteins, then you might have to avoid all dairy, including cheese, with the exception of ghee and possibly butter.

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I listened to this on Friday, and I absolutely loved the interview. You did a fantastic job recounting your experience, and you are a good speaker. It was nice to put a voice to the avatar Some of the topics you brought up I plan to do videos on in the future.

Over the weekend I helped some friends move. They had made a crock pot full of meatballs in marinara sauce, thinking "it's meat" and therefore I would eat. And so I did, because they were being hospitable and it was the proper thing to do. So most meatballs usually have a little breading in them if they come from the store. I was 3 lb heavier the next day, lol. I took it off in a day and was back down to my normal weight, but I'm always surprised how impactful just a tiny bit of carbs can be.

Very nice. I will be listening/watching this today while I am on the road (which is where I consume most of my podcasts/video podcasts - while driving).

Welcome aboard Les! I do hope that you reap some benefits from your carnivore diet. It has done wonders for me I am not looking back (I'm meat centric, and will occasionally eat a plant). It's true carnivore won't heal everything. A lot of us see quick results with reversing diabetes or lowering blood pressure. Some people lose a lot of weight up front. Others seem to have to heal metabolically before the weight starts dropping. But think of all the years you spent feeding your body junk... it's not gonna all get fixed overnight. I was listening to a podcast/video today, and they were talking about polyunsaturated fats found in seed oils, and how most Americans have an imbalance of Omega-6 vs Omega-3's. The guest said that it can take 4 years for your body to return to normal levels. So we need to be on this journey for the long haul.

Looks good. I need to incorporate more fatty fish into my diet.