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On 8/15/2024 at 8:23 AM, rpavich said:

it's not by accident...it's a calculated move to keep us coming back for pills and surgeries.

A couple years ago I would have rolled my eyes at all this, laughing it off as conspiracy theories. Now here I am today basically trying to say the same thing, hoping to wake others up who are caught in the never ending system of junk food, obesity, and prescriptions.

On 8/15/2024 at 10:56 PM, Laura said:

I definitely believe the entire system is corrupt, but many who are in it don't realize it. 

I would agree with this. For example, my doctor is a good guy, and very intelligent and very learned, but schooled in the mainstream medical system that it's hard for him to reconcile my diet with it's good results. It's cool that I lost weight and feel awesome, but "YoU hAvE tO eAt OATS" lol

Although he's siding with me and telling my wife to quit the junk food and just eat fruit when she's got that sweet craving. At our last appointment he asked how she was doing. I said pretty good but she's eating a truckload of fruit, way too much, and he actually looked at her and said "you can't do that. I said have a piece of fruit, not eat fruit all day long" lol. 

There's this doctor on YouTube that the algorithm keeps shoving in my face now. He's very anti-carnivore and anti-keto. Smart guy. Likeable. But his name might as well be Dr. STATIN because you would think the whole world needs to be on them after listening to him, lol.

So my wife is on the keto/animal-based train almost full time now and is losing weight. She's basically no grains, a Keto Chow shake for breakfast, meat, cheese, and some fruit for lunch, and then whatever carnivore dinner I prepare in the evening. She's in that phase where experimenting with various keto recipes is fun for her. We've all been there.

Anyway, tonight she attempted to make a "potato chip" substitute. Our friend Jan who we met that lives down the street gave us a couple packets of potato flavored keto chow with the mission to try and create either a "potato chip" or "french fry". We mixed the Keto Chow with 16oz of cottage cheese, spread it real thin, and baked it. 

It was good. It had more of a cracker like feel to it, but you could taste the potato. And it was about 99% or more carnivore friendly.

On 7/29/2024 at 1:57 PM, Susyn C_137 said:

What do you guys think about using (clean, grassfed) whey protein powder occasionally for those who cannot eat enough protein for whatever reason?\

This would be fine. Whey comes from the cheese making process, and is an animal protein. It contains all the amino acids and is therefore a complete protein. You just want to make sure it's clean.

On 7/29/2024 at 1:57 PM, Susyn C_137 said:

Also; for those having trouble getting enough fat, or on the verge of giving up because they're desperate for something other than meat, utilizing a serving KetoChow to stay technically Carnivore?

You could do this and still be mostly carnivore, carnivore enough. Keto Chow isn't strictly carnivore because of the acacia gum (it acts as an emulsifier and lets butter or other fats stay mixed even when refrigerated) along with a few other plant-derived ingredients (like cocoa powder in the chocolate). They do make versions with beef protein as well as unsweetened. 

My wife uses Keto Chow currently. You mix it with your choice of fat and water. Currently we use a mix of water and heavy cream. It's good stuff.

I still have an aversion to chewy fat. I have to cut it so that I am eating it along with the meat. If the blob is too big, I cut it and push it to the side. 

Now I can tolerate it if it is fried to a crisp. So a lot of times I will trim the fat around my steak AND then add it to the pan. As the steak cooks, the fat trimming get crispy, and then I can enjoy both.

Nice article.

I always figured "2000 calories a day" was just a number that made the math simple, in order to establish a standard.

On 8/13/2024 at 6:05 AM, rpavich said:

I can feel the bottom of my feet now

On 8/13/2024 at 7:16 AM, rpavich said:

 I can go a whole night's sleep and only pee 1 or 2 times....no emergencies..... amazing.

That's awesome. These are nice little milestones in your recovery. Remember every improvement, both big and small, as these will keep you motivated to stay the course.

On 8/12/2024 at 2:12 PM, Scott F. said:

I read some studies from the 50's when carnivore was called 'a meat only' diet. (maybe the current name is a better catch phrase). The MS community saw a lot of improvements with red meat and water. No gimmes, and no cheats, only red meat and water.

Are those studies online and could you link to them. I have a friend who is suffering from a bad form of MS. He doesn't work now and he's always snacking on carbs and putting on some weight. 

I've talked about carnivore - but it might pack a better punch armed with some studies and evidences.

On 8/12/2024 at 9:32 AM, Miranda said:

Thanks I didn't know that. So what's the difference?

As far as what they do - nothing. In fact, I use the Soda Stream CO2 cartridges in my DrinkMate.

The DrinkMate though has this patented lid. The fizz infuser is built into the lid. After carbonating, there's a little button on the lid that you can gently press to let the pressure out slowly. This is why I can carbonate anything.

The Soda Streams don't have that. The fizz infuser simply dips into the liquid in the container, but it's not sealed at the top of the bottle. Therefore if you fizz something besides water, it will bubble over and make a mess.

16 hours ago, Luv2bhlthy said:

Hi newbie here. I just started 6 days ago. I fasted today and broke it with 3 large ribs and 15 shrimp with butter. Comfortably stuffed!!

I like your taste in food, lol

Welcome aboard!

Yesterday was my typical staples, except for dinner. There's a place around the corner that sells pulled pork. So we got some of that without any sauce to take home and enjoy.

So what I hear is your numbers are improved, even if only slightly, and you're feeling great. I would say, keep doing what you are doing

On 8/10/2024 at 7:30 PM, Miranda said:

I think you are only supposed to carbonate water because other liquids have fats and other molecular structures that make a mess. I watched a YouTuber that carbonated a variety of different things like milk and applesauce, to see what  happens and  milk made a huge mess.

I purposely bought a DrinkMate instead of a SodaStream. A DrinkMate can carbonate literally anything. I can even revive flat soda and beer, lol.

The stools are going to seem wonky for the first month or so. I would either drop pure liquid with the force of a fire hydrant, or I would go up to 8 days with no desire to sit down, only to drop a little rock when I did. It eventually evened out and returned to my new normal. 

I don't think the Salmon itself is the culprit. But Salmon, while considered a "fatty fish" is still kinda lean. You may have needed to add more fat.

The rule of thumb is to add more fat, in the form of butter, ghee, or tallow. Cheese may work, but many people report cheese being a natural constipator. Me included.

Slept perfect all weekend as well. 

I also added a 6th potential reason. I had around the same time ran out of my favorite seasoning, so for the last couple weeks I've only been using salt and nothing else. This is still not likely.

But, I just picked some up, so I will add back in seasoning this week. And then some K2 next week. Again, my guess is that these are benign.

I will then check my labs before adding Niacin back in. I want to formerly guage if the Niacin is really of any benefit. It's higher on my list as a possibility because it does have side effects (flushing). After doing some research, while Niacin is often used by body builders to help build muscle by delivering more oxygen to the muscles, it can also cause muscle breakdown in people with chronic kidney disease.

That would be me, lol. 

So on Friday we went out to eat at a restaurant that had something they called "burnt cheese rollovers" that were "Atkin's friendly".

So on Saturday I thought I would try to make a carnivore-friendly version of them at home, and it was suprisingly easy. I had this one pictured below with pepperoni and sausage. And Sunday morning I made one with scrambled eggs and sausage.

They are crazy addictive...

5 minutes ago, ol_hilly said:

Have you tried it? Fizzing your coffee. 

I quit coffee in 2019, lol.

I could try fizzing my tea and getting back to you.

I have a DrinkMate. The bottle says not to put hot liquids in it. So I would have to let the beverage cool, then fizz it, and then warm it back up again.

I've been experiencing a period of peace and rest for the last 2 weeks, lol. And I don't know what has caused this to happen. But, I was DYING with leg and foot cramps that would wake me up from sleep. Or, make it impossible to swim in the pool. To combat them, I would salt generously and take magnesium. When that failed me, I would take an electrolye mix that had some potassium - which I usually avoid due to my kidneys.

About 2 weekends ago i went a few days forgetting to take my prescriptions. That's when I noticed it. So, I started to wonder if it was the fenofibrate I take for my triglycerides. In hindsight, the cramps started around the same time I started taking that. But, keeping my trigs down is important so I resumed taking the prescription and have nonstop for the last 2 weeks. The cramps haven't returned, so I can probably rule that out.

In the same time period though, I have reduced my salt and magnesium intake, and ran out of niacin (which I also took for trigs) and vitamin k2. I am also getting some damn good sleep at night now, lol. 

So I am still waiting for the cramps to return, not that I want them to. So it may come down to a few possibilities...

1) Reduced salt.
2) Reduced magnesium.
3) Eliminated k2 (not likely)
4) Eliminated Nicotinic acid/Niacin
5) Kidneys are healing (also not likely)

I've got some research and experimentation to do. 

I was just wondering if you looked into OwnYourLabs.com and compared their pricing with the particular labs you would like to run. That website offers extremely cheap pricing on blood work for most tests (although, Cystatin C was expensive so I went with UltaLabs for that one). OwnYourLabs.com works with LabCorp, so everyone can get their results online. These results could then be forwarded to you for compilation and analysis.

Getting my Saturday started at noon with these 6 eggs, cheese, and sausage links...

I had ulcerative colitis, and was told to eat a lot of fiber. I suffered for years. 

Then I tried carnivore, and went months and months without even a gram of fiber, and my disease has either been cured or went into remission.

Yeah, forget fiber, lol.

When I started I would either barely go at all for days, and imagined I was "constipated", or it would be like turning on the tub faucet with so much force I almost elevated off the seat, lol. It took about 6 weeks for mine to return to my new normal. I get diarrhea from time to time, but it's rare now so when I do it may not even be diet related at all. 

Welcome aboard, btw!

Welcome aboard @The Hamburgler 

I've only heard of priming in passing. Never looked into in depth or listened to a video that talked about it. I started with dirty keto, then moved on to clean keto, then ketovore, then carnivore, then lion diet, and now I am carnivore most of the time, save for once or twice a month.

Intermittent fasting came easy with strict carnivore, especially when I was laid up with my broken ankle. But when I returned to work it got harder, because I work hard, and a hard working man needs to eat, lol.

I must say I am envious of those who have broke their soda habits, lol. I love my bubbles so much. I even purchased a DrinkMate (comparable to Soda Stream) to make my own fizzy drinks, but I usually make some sort of diet soda. I can drink a San Pelligrino just fine, but carbonating my tap water is not very palatable. 

Regarding artificial sweeteners for taste - for some people it's a trigger and they will go off plan and binge. For others, it causes a cephalic phase insulin response and raises their insulin, hampering weight loss. I'm lucky in that I don't seem to struggle with either issue.

1 hour ago, Another Meat Head said:

your body has been trained to expect things a certain way

This makes me think of how the dog somehow knows that either my wife or I is going to pull in the driveway any moment now, even though they can't tell time and have no idea it's 5pm. Internal body clock.

Likewise, we may have an internal body clock programmed to eat at certain times, not out of hunger or need, but out of mere routine. We just need to break the cycle.

On 8/8/2024 at 2:21 PM, XaqNautilus said:

I usually go for 2 walks a day and cover over 10 km distance minimum.  For example yesterday I walked 23 km.

10 km = 6.2 miles. 23 km = 14.29 miles.

Wow! That is impressive! Welcome aboard, btw

On 8/8/2024 at 2:21 PM, XaqNautilus said:

I follow all the good doctors on Youtube: Baker, Bikman, Chaffee, Cywes, Kiltz , Mason and Westman to name a few.

You basically listed all my favs

Thank you @SallyB for providing additional information about yourself, your practice, and your prospective study. Welcome aboard!

What about testing the food itself? There is a lot of information (and granted, we consume most of it through YouTube videos) about how meat and organs are rich in vitamins and other nutrients, and even how these are more bioavailable that their counterparts found in plants. The most infamous examples being how the body has to struggle to convert beta-carotene into the usable form of Vitamin A, retinol, whereas it's already in that form in meat products. Or, how the Omega-3's from animal sources are in the forms we need, EPA and DHA, whereas Omega-3's in plants are in the form of ALA and we don't do an efficient job at converting them to a usable form?

Logic would follow that if meat and organs contain abundantly more nutrients vs plants, AND they are already in a form that the human body can easily use without any difficult conversion processes, then a meat-heavy or carnivore-centric diet is going to be very good for you.

In the meantime, you might find this video interesting. They has so many tests ordered I'm surprised they even had any blood left, lol...