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I gave you the best formula I know of and that to eat equal amounts of fat to protein in 1 gram of fat to 1 gram of protein. With 1 gram of fat equaling 9 calories and 1 gram of protein equaling 4 calories then a one to one ratio would give you that appropriate fat to protein ratio. I guess I’m just very good at explaining it to you and I apologize for that. Hopefully Bob will come along and explain it to you better than I can. He much better at it than I am. I wouldn’t worry about eating fat because I promise you, eating fat will not make you fat. Eating fat increases your metabolic rate of energy consumption. Because eating fat does not increase insulin,stored fat is free to leave adipose storage to be used as fuel. On carnivore it will be used as fuel because by restricting carbs it’s the only fuel available. I got to thinking about your muffin top and looked at myself and realized that I have a spare tire. Women get muffin tops and men get spare tires. My spare tire is mostly loose skin from losing so much weight. It’s not fat but skin. I’m hoping that with intermittent fasting autophagy may help with that. I still think you need to just eat plenty of animal fats and protein and don’t try to be so analytical about it. Eat only when hungry and eat until comfortably full. If you are not eating any carbohydrates you will be in ketosis and you will not get fat. You will burn fat for fuel. The fatigue you are experiencing is normal in the beginning because you are still in the transitional stage of your body adjusting from using glucose for fuel to using fat for fuel. Just hang in there. Try to be patient. Nothing happens overnight.

Yesterday it was hamburger and egg tacos with Egglife wraps. Today it was smoked venison steak and four eggs. That wasn’t quite enough do I finished off with some bone broth and pork rinds.

I’m in North Texas. I have to mail order my sausages from a place up north that makes some good bratwurst and knockwurst as well as other sausages but it gets pricy. I’ve lived in Darmstadt, Sembach, Wildflecken and Garlstadt near Bremerhaven. It would be nice to go back and visit the land of my ancestors again. I still have my bier stein from the Hofbrauhaus in Munich.

Welcome to Carnivore Talk Ashley. We are glad you could join us. You sound like someone with a great attitude. You should do well on keto.

Sounds good. Too bad I’m carnivore and can’t eat nothing but the chicken. Have you ever tried that with dark meat instead of white meat?

It can be difficult to find good bratwurst where I live. I do miss the sausage and other foods I ate when I lived in Germany.

You are overthinking this whole thing. It’s not the least bit complicated. First off you still are not unite fat ratios. It’s not about how much the fat weighs. It’s about how many calories ar in the fat. So I gram of fat will have about 9 calories and protein about 4 calories so that if you eat 1 gram of fat to 1 gram of protein you will be getting the approximately correct ratio of fat to protein. The 70/30 or 80/20 is not in weight but in calories. One of the beautiful things about the carnivore lifestyle is that you don’t need to count or measure anything unless it’s just your nature to be analytical. All you need to do is eat fatty meat cooked in animal fats until you are full. Eat only when you are hungry and just make sure that everything you eat is centered around animal fats, animal proteins, salt and water. So try not to overcomplicate this way of eating. To get a better understanding of what this is all about I’d like to suggest that you read Dr. Shawn Bakers book The Carnivore Diet. It’s available on Amazon and on audio from Audible. It’s really good about explaining every aspect of this way of eating. In the traditional sense of diet it’s not a diet. It’s a lifestyle of eating. yes, a diet can be what you eat but most people think of a diet as something you do to lose weight and when they reach their goal then they can quit the diet and go back to the way they were. Diets always fail. This is why we like to refer to this as a lifestyle and not a diet. This is how we will eat for the rest of our lives if we want to stay metabolically healthy for the rest of our lives.

I think that says it perfectly.

One pound of smoked venison burgers and four eggs. If you’ve got a smoker I highly recommend smoking your burgers. It adds a whole new flavor dimension and it retains more of its fat. I had these made 70/30 fat ratio. The venison I hunted. The eggs came from my chickens and the fat they were cooked in was tallow that I made. The only thing I didn’t make was the salt I used. It just don’t get much better than that imo.

I had a hard time last month with carnivore month. I just couldn’t get it in gear. I even put on weight and about an inch or so it felt that way. Then around the end of the month I got sick and that helped reset everything for me. This has been my weight this month so far. 164.0 164.2 166.0 164.8 164.6 164.0 165.0 163.8 I’ve had very little problems staying away from dairy. The cravings are getting less and easier to control. I have been able to only eat once a day around noon and it’s been carrying me over till the next day around noon. Today I had one pound of venison hamburger and four eggs.

I’ve already addressed these concerns on the other posts you made but I’ll repeat myself here. I don’t think you quite understand the 80% fat idea. The foundation of the carnivore plan is to start with a 70/30 fat to protein ratio but that’s measured in the calories. Now I’m not a calorie guy but that’s averaged is how the ratio is calculated. So that means you should be getting 70% of your calories from fat and 30% from your protein. There are more calories in one gram of fat than there is protein. So that breaks down to fat has 9 calories per gram and protein has 4 calories per gram. Do you aren’t eating as much fat physically as you think. So to get an idea of how that might look in a piece of meat let’s look at the ribeye. A 16 oz ribeye with a good amount of fat on it will have about a 69-31% fat to protein ratio. That’s one of the reasons we love ribeye so much is because it’s already the perfect ratio for us. The only time you need to add butter is if your meat is lean. I go through a lot of butter because I eat a lot of venison and venison is very lean. Burgers will often render out most of their fat regardless of the fat to meat ratio so I add butter to my burgers. Quite often if you just eat fatty meat, cooked in animal fats you will get plenty of fat. The conventional way to calculate your protein needs is one should aim for approximately 1 gram to 1.2 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass. Lean body mass being your goal weight. Protein requirements may vary based on factors such as age, activity level, and individual metabolic health. You did not get the way you are overnight and you won’t fix it overnight. Carnivore is not a magic bullet. Carnivore is not a diet. Carnivore is a way of eating which enables your body to undo years of metabolic damage, abuse from calorie restricted diets, and metabolic disregulation. Carnivore is primarily about health and healing. Yes- it is true that the weight will come off. But! It will do it when it wants to. For some people it happens fast, for others slow because we are all different.

Well that’s a first for me. I’ve heard of people putting on weight but not a muffin too. So how long have you been eating carnivore? I ask because quite often people are expecting fast miracles when they need to realize that they didn’t get they way they are overnight and the won’t change things overnight. The conventional way to calculate your protein needs is one should aim for approximately 1 gram to 1.2 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass. Lean body mass being your goal weight. Protein requirements may vary based on factors such as age, activity level, and individual metabolic health.

I don’t even try. Nobody really wants to hear anything about it unless they ask. Most people would rather put on blinders, satisfy their carbohydrate addiction and just take a pill to fix their diet related illnesses. If you try to talk to people about it without them asking you about it first you will just alienate them. The best thing you can do is just be a good example. When people see the changes in you they will be naturally curious as to how you did it. Some will be genuinely receptive but most will immediately close their minds because of years of brainwashing. For those that are receptive then ease them into it and don’t overwhelm them with facts and figures. Offer to educate them with books and videos about carnivore and offer to coach them if they want to learn more. For the closed minded just leave them be. My classic story of trying to help someone unsolicited was when a good family friend had an autoimmune disorder causing a terrible skin rash. We were visiting her on her birthday and she was complaining about how bad the rash was and she couldn’t get any sleep or relief. I kept my mouth shut until she said “ It’s a good thing I don’t own a gun or we wouldn’t be having this morning.” Well when someone starts talking like that I figured it’s time to step in. So I told her about carnivore being able to heal her autoimmune condition and giving her relief. Her reaction, as she took a drink of her Spite, was “ There’s no way I could give up my hamburgers.” Conclusion , no matter how bad off they are some just won’t be willing to change.

I don’t think you quite understand the 80% fat idea. The foundation of the carnivore plan is to start with a 70/30 fat to protein ratio but that’s measured in the calories. Now I’m not a calorie guy but that’s averaged is how the ratio is calculated. So that means you should be getting 70% of your calories from fat and 30% from your protein. There are more calories in one gram of fat than there is protein. So that breaks down to fat has 9 calories per gram and protein has 4 calories per gram. Do you aren’t eating as much fat physically as you think. So to get an idea of how that might look in a piece of meat let’s look at the ribeye. A 16 oz ribeye with a good amount of fat on it will have about a 69-31% fat to protein ratio. That’s one of the reasons we love ribeye so much is because it’s already the perfect ratio for us. The only time you need to add butter is if your meat is lean. I go through a lot of butter because I eat a lot of venison and venison is very lean. Burgers will often render out most of their fat regardless of the fat to meat ratio so I add butter to my burgers. Quite often if you just eat fatty meat, cooked in animal fats you will get plenty of fat.

I only cook my ribs one way and that is smoked. To me, any other way they aren’t worth eating. If you can smoke them then great but if not you may try to do them in the oven using my method of smoking them. Season the ribs with salt and white pepper. If there are any other seasonings that you can tolerate such as garlic powder then you can use that as well. Just don’t use any rubs that contain sugar. I like seasoning my ribs the night before I cook them and then wrap in cellophane and store in the fridge. Set your temperature at 250° Fahrenheit. If you can’t smoke the meat then you could lightly brush a little liquid smoke I the ribs. Cook the ribs uncovered for 3 hours. Then wrap the ribs in foil with a few pats of butter on the meat. Continue cooking at the same temperature for 2 hours. Then open up foil and cook one more hour just to tighten up the meat on the bone. Remove from the oven and let rest for about 15 minutes. Slice and enjoy.

No, I don’t believe that eating insects could provide additional nutritional advantages to the carnivore lifestyle. Ruminant meats provide all of the nutrition that the human body needs for optimal health. I’ve eaten insects either in survival training or in visiting other countries where it’s the norm and I am not a fan of eating them. If it was a matter of survival I know I can eat them but given a choice I’ll pass. There are no rules to eating the way we do but there are guidelines. Carnivore is a diet that consists of eating a diet high in animal fats. A moderate amount of animal protein. Plenty of salt and water. Each individual can eat whatever they want and we won’t judge so if you want to eat bugs then more power to you.

Ate most of it before I remembered to take a pic. Had two over easy eggs and a smoked venison steak.

I don’t believe that’s what he was implying but he was pointing out that being vegetarian didn’t improve their lives as they were all gross sinners who had turned away from God. Noah and his family were vegetarians also but they were saved. It was all about the sinful nature of man and that food will not save us from that sinful nature. Only a change of heart can do that. These days man is more deprived than ever regardless of what he eats.

You are doing great Scott and your mindset is perfect. I knew after 90 days that this would be my lifestyle from now on. It’s been such a miracle for me. I think you may have already adopted this as your lifestyle you just haven’t admitted it to yourself yet. You’re hooked brother.

Good job Joanna. Being your own N of 1 is the way you’ll find your path.

Mankind were all vegetarians before the flood. We didn’t become meat eaters until after the flood.

I don’t eat butter as a snack or meal but I do use it as a condiment. I go through about a stick a day or more. A lot of the meats I eat are venison so it’s very lean so I use it on the meat like a jam or spread. Same with burger, since most of the fat is rendered out in cooking. I also like my eggs cooked in it. I did eat about a tablespoon one time when I was experiencing a craving that just wouldn’t subside but haven’t since. A lot of people make brown butter bites to snack on. I don’t choose my butter by flavor. I’ve never tried different kinds to see if there’s a difference. I just buy the cheapest thing in the store that’s pure.

Welcome to carnivore talk. You're a big ol boy aren’t you. To find out what the best fat to protein ratio for yourself is to start with about 70% fat and 30% protein in terms of calories. In terms of weight, this is approximately 1:1 ratio. To calculate protein needs, one should aim for approximately 1 gram to 1.2 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass. This approach is suitable for individuals seeking to maintain or gain weight and muscle mass. Protein requirements may vary based on factors such as age, activity level, and individual metabolic health.

Eggs and venison backstrap.