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    Why is Bacon so delicious????  Well, I will tell you. My father was a cattle rancher and one that built a great reputation for excellence in his Scientific knowledge.  Twice he was called to Texa

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    I consider in its own food group and it lands up high on the pedestal of things to eat. Maybe even at the top.  Scott

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Bacon is meat candy.
I am not a Jew under rabbinical law so I can eat whatever I want thank God for the new covenant. There are too many forbidden foods that I eat that wouldn’t be allowed as a Jew.

1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons,
2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron,
3 men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth.
4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude;
5 for it is sanctified by means of the word of God and prayer. A Good Minister's Discipline (1 Timothy 4:1, NASB)


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This is an interesting topic: Why did the Creator ban the consumption of pork under the law of Moses?

Some say it was just one of the many ways to set the Israelites apart as different from the pagan nations around them. Others say that it was the divine wisdom of the Almighy, knowing that undercooked pork carried the risk of many food-borne illnesses, and so this was a protection. And yet others see it as symbolism - the pig represented hypocrisy, because it put forth it's split hoof as if to say "see I am kosher" on the outside, but by not chewing the cud it was not clean on the inside.

INTERESTINGLY, the animals that split it's hoof and chewed it cud were ruminants. Ruminants were more nutritious because of their 4-chambered stomachs. They could remove all the impurities, and at the same time extract all the nutrition, from the grasses they ate. Ruminant meat was thus considered superior, even in ancient Israelite culture.

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2 hours ago, Scott F. said:

I consider in its own food group and it lands up high on the pedestal of things to eat. Maybe even at the top. 

Scott

Haha, so true!

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On 3/10/2025 at 12:21 PM, Bob said:

This is an interesting topic: Why did the Creator ban the consumption of pork under the law of Moses?

Some say it was just one of the many ways to set the Israelites apart as different from the pagan nations around them. Others say that it was the divine wisdom of the Almighy, knowing that undercooked pork carried the risk of many food-borne illnesses, and so this was a protection. And yet others see it as symbolism - the pig represented hypocrisy, because it put forth it's split hoof as if to say "see I am kosher" on the outside, but by not chewing the cud it was not clean on the inside.

INTERESTINGLY, the animals that split it's hoof and chewed it cud were ruminants. Ruminants were more nutritious because of their 4-chambered stomachs. They could remove all the impurities, and at the same time extract all the nutrition, from the grasses they ate. Ruminant meat was thus considered superior, even in ancient Israelite culture.

Matthew 15:11: Jesus says that "it is not what goes into a person's mouth that defiles them, but what comes out of their mouth – this is what defiles them." 

“Stop calling defiled the things God has cleansed.” -Acts 10:15

It's really clear that we can eat what we want. Unless one is to ignore the new covenant. Or is of another religion of course, with all respect to Islam and Hindu.

But the Kosher thing, yeah, just read the rest of the book bro, you're gonna be fine. 

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Why is Bacon so delicious????  Well, I will tell you.

My father was a cattle rancher and one that built a great reputation for excellence in his Scientific knowledge.  Twice he was called to Texas A&M University to lecture on the excellence of a butchered beef.  This was in the 1980’s when low fat was all the rage.

One evening at a University event where they served steaks….  A millionaire businessman approached my father and asked….. “Joe, what makes a steak so flavorful.”   Dad replied…  “Sir, it is what all you businessmen are trying to cut out of our beef…..  It’s called fat.  If I put 5 different cuts of steak in front of you to taste, you will say the fatty Ribeye is your favorite.  You will say that because a Prime Ribeye is loaded with fat.  Fat is where the flavor is.”

That was the wisdom of my father.

Why is bacon so awesome…. Because of the fat in it, along with the smoking/curing.

 

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On 3/12/2025 at 7:38 AM, Orweller said:

It's really clear that we can eat what we want... just read the rest of the book bro, you're gonna be fine. 

Oh I know. I said the Creator had prohibited it under the Law of Moses (the old covenant).

There are no dietary prohibitions in the new covenant (except for abstaining from blood)... 

“[He] erased the handwritten document that consisted of decrees and was in opposition to us. He has taken it out of the way.” - Colossians 2:14

“By means of his flesh he abolished the enmity, the Law of commandments consisting in decrees.” - Ephesians 2:15
 

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4 hours ago, Bob said:

Oh I know. I said the Creator had prohibited it under the Law of Moses (the old covenant).

There are no dietary prohibitions in the new covenant (except for abstaining from blood)... 

“[He] erased the handwritten document that consisted of decrees and was in opposition to us. He has taken it out of the way.” - Colossians 2:14

“By means of his flesh he abolished the enmity, the Law of commandments consisting in decrees.” - Ephesians 2:15
 

Oh it wasn't directed necessarily to you specifically. But yes, the kosher thing is bonkers to me. Just read the rest of the bible. Then again, a theological approach to diet is not something I advocate. Again, with exception to Hindu or Islam, they have their own books. 

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A different question re: bacon….some bacon has sodium erythrobate in it. Is this ok or no good?

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A different question re: bacon….some bacon has sodium erythrobate in it. Is this ok or no good?

That’s a new one on me.
Just a quick search came up with this.

Sodium erythorbate has little to no nutritional benefit. Although most aren't affected by consumption of the additive, it has been linked with allergic reactions, gout-like symptoms, and kidney stones (in those with a past history of kidney stones).

I have no idea if this is true or not.
If you have been eating it and have had no ill effects then I wouldn’t bee too concerned but if you aren’t sure about it then find some bacon that doesn’t have it.

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On 3/13/2025 at 7:39 PM, Joanna said:

A different question re: bacon….some bacon has sodium erythrobate in it. Is this ok or no good?

A search seems to indicate that it is pretty safe. It's a salt that accelerates curing, prevents/slows oxidation, and the body converts it to vitamin C. Unless you as an individual have a sensitivity towards it, it's probably fine for most people,,,

https://thefooduntold.com/food-additives/what-is-sodium-erythorbate-e316-in-food/

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1 hour ago, Bob said:

A search seems to indicate that it is pretty safe. It's a salt that accelerates curing, prevents/slows oxidation, and the body converts it to vitamin C. Unless you as an individual have a sensitivity towards it, it's probably fine for most people,,,

https://thefooduntold.com/food-additives/what-is-sodium-erythorbate-e316-in-food/

Thanks for that, Bob!

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No matter your religion I think Pigs get a bad press. I've heard them described as 'Dirty', but does that describe how WE keep them? 
I enjoy bacon but just occasionally it tastes too salty for me, I always take that to mean .... cut back on the salt a bit. 

The description of pigs being dirty has two origins. The first is yes due to how they live because they love to waller in mud. They do that so they don’t sunburn.
The second is due to what they eat. They will eat anything including each other. Some people are grossed out by what pigs will eat. Same can be said of chickens.
Being monogastric animals they are what they eat so to speak.
I eat a lot of wild pork and it’s good stuff but I know a lot of hunters that won’t touch them.


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8 hours ago, Geezy said:


The description of pigs being dirty has two origins. The first is yes due to how they live because they love to waller in mud. They do that so they don’t sunburn.
The second is due to what they eat. They will eat anything including each other. Some people are grossed out by what pigs will eat. Same can be said of chickens.
Being monogastric animals they are what they eat so to speak.
I eat a lot of wild pork and it’s good stuff but I know a lot of hunters that won’t touch them.


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