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On to 2026
2 pointsI have never been one to set goals or even make plans. "Me and life" find a way to trash out even the best made plans. I go with a different approach. I start off with 'this is what I am going to do' and then go from there. I have lost as much as 95lbs, bouncing around 85-90 lost today and I'm going to attack visceral fat around the gut and change my body composition some more. I am not sure what that new number will be as I will be trying to add muscle as some of the fat goes away. If the composition changes the number will be no more than a number. From there I will continue with the carnivore approach and focus a bit more on red meat and adding more fish. Scott2 points
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On to 2026
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A massive F you to Seed Oil Influencers
A massive F you to Seed Oil Influencers
Jamie Henry Brown and one other reacted to Scott F. for a post in a topic
2 pointsAgreed. I made the tallow a couple days before and thought we were on the same page. I get home and see peanut oil jugs. I am pretty sure a couple three times over 19 months is not going to do me in, or be the straw that broke the camels back, but once you learn something one can't un-ring that bell. I thought the tallow fried turkey tasted better. Could have been a mind thing for me but I am pretty sure I felt a little better about it. LOL Scott2 points -
High uric acid
High uric acid
Geezy and one other reacted to Scott F. for a post in a topic
2 pointsKeep going. In the first month you are still adjusting. Increasing the proteins in your diet and removing the carbs probably moved you into ketosis. Mine made a jump in the early months but fell back to normal. Then recently it pushed just outside the normal limit but I have been eating a lot of protein as of late. I don't do organ meats and I make sure I hydrate throughout the day. When I eat normal amounts of protein and hydrate my number drops back. Not sure if this helps but I have seen my uric number inch up and down over the last 18-19 months. Scott2 points -
My best BGL Thanksgiving ever
2 pointsBest BGL Thanksgiving ever. Glad I made it. I ate like 15 or 20 carbs. Now back to ZERO Carbs. I was alone so no pressure. Christmas will be a bigger challenge. I will be prepared, armed and ready. Getting new glasses in December, looking forward to that. U all be well2 points
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Grandson is going to Workds, in Chicago
Grandson is going to Workds, in Chicago
ol_hilly and one other reacted to pauls for a post in a topic
2 pointsI got a text from my daughter, my 11 year old grandson qualified to compete in the World Irish Dance competition in Chicago in 2026 ! He just finished a 3 day competition in Philadelphia2 points -
Venison is back on the menu.
Venison is back on the menu.
Bob and one other reacted to Carburetor for a post in a topic
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All i watch ...
2 pointsLet's start off with saying in August of 2018 I was simply fat, dumb and happy. I was in the 320's, never really had blood sugar nor blood pressure issues but the cholesterol had been ever increasing thru my upper forties. Around the time I turned 49 the doctor convinced me to give the statins a try, I forget which one, but I picked up the prescription. About the third day I started to feel funny, and by the fourth to the fifth day I had every side effect listed. When I googled the medicine it listed the five more common side effects and I had all five by day five. I stopped taking them that day but the symptoms continued, and some even worsened. I fought the symptoms for a month or more. The doctor offered another version of the statin, maybe another name brand, but I declined. By mid-September I had cramps behind my eyes and pains in my neck and spine that would drive me to my knees. On Monday morning, Labor Day 2018, I woke up as blind as a bat. Zero sight. Everything was as the same color as a computer screen when turned off. I freaked out. The pain in my neck/spine was crippling. On the way to the emergency room some of sight returned in my left eye almost like a curtain was being peeled back. By noon I could see again but the pain was even more intense. Over the next three months it was CAT scan after CAT scan, blood draw after blood draw, multiple MRI's, a couple EMG's, a lumbar puncture (spinal tap), some visual evoke type tests, some cognizance exams, probably in stroke protocol 10-15 times when the left side showed weakness or no mobility. In late December I was diagnosed with Neuromyelitis Optica Spectrum Disorder. During the explanations of the disease the neurologist said something triggered the autoimmune response and your body reacted. By then I was well onto my Google Medical degree and was near graduating from the Youtube College of Medicine and based on my newfound medical expertise (LOL) my trigger was the statins. I have no medical background to say that was the case and it could have been a complete coincidence; I simply could not prove it one way or the other. But in my brain (and in my heart) it was the statins. From that point til now, I doubt statins will ever be an option. Scott2 points
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Thanksgiving Day, it's changed
Thanksgiving Day, it's changed
ol_hilly and one other reacted to pauls for a post in a topic
2 pointsIt's not like the old days. I will not go into what the menu was years ago. For me this time it is slow cooked turkey thighs. A favorite part of the bird for me., To be followed by a carnivore pumpkin cheesecake. Topped with *whipped cream. This cheesecake gets great reviews when served. A very generous portion contains 6 whole carbs. For my thankful part, I have resolved Manny issue. My diabetes remains, I respond as a T1d now (likely now LADA) . My Blood Glucose Level is controlled rather tightly with long acting insulin and a Zero carb one meal a day diet. My future is the best it can be. I do gave bold plans for my future. Everyone have a great holiday.2 points -
Venison is back on the menu.
2 pointsWhile I won’t pass up a nice rack that’s true. But I’m a meat hunter and not a trophy hunter.2 points
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Time for a new 15 day sensor
2 pointsMy Libre 2 Plus sensor expired, I applied a new one and after a 1 hour warmup a BGL is reported every minute. Numbers look real and I confirmed so with a finger stick. For the moment it looks good. The bonus is I also marking my second 24 hour period in a row of needing No fast acting insulin. I also cut my daily dose of long acting insulin by four units. My recent record is 3 days without using short acting insulin. Her is to going for 4 days in a row !2 points
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Venison is back on the menu.
2 pointsAnother season is here and just the other day at the shop we were talking hunting stories. One of my buddy's passed a couple three years ago and he always told the best hunting story (and this one is actually true) (and I may have shared it last year) His dad was in his 80's and had been an avid deer hunter his entire life. he and his brothers paid for his dad to go out west and trophy hunt one last time. The deer were just about trained to show at certain feeders at certain times during the day. It was not much hunting but it was goign to serve the purpose for Mr. Roberts to give it one more whirl. On cue, the massive buck walked right up to the blind. He raised his shotgun and squeezed one off. The deer dropped dead in its tracks and my buddy said they heard scream for miles. He shot him right in the face/head. Antlers/rack was shattered. His sons were pissed. The owners of the deer camp were pissed. As they grew this trophy buck for just such an occasion. In soft southern drawl, Mr. Roberts said, "You can boil'em, bake'em, or fry'em and you still can't eat the horns". Every year this is the first story I think of when hunting season rolls around. Scott2 points
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The new Libre 2 & 3 Plus CGM issues
2 pointsI use the Libre2 Plus. Someone gave me the reader and some sensors that her husband didn't use any more and I loved it. As much as one can love a device like that. I'm kind of a gadget/data nerd. Eventually I persuaded my doctor's office to write me a prescription for the sensors. At first they were hesitant, like they thought I was going to sell them out of the trunk of my car to children on playgrounds or something. I pay for them myself. Medicare doesn't consider me "diabetic enough" to cover the cost. Whatever. I think each sensor is about $80. As you said, they now last for 15 days (just one day more than the old ones, so what's the big deal). Since I've been ultra-low-carb/carnivore, the low glucose alarm has gone off twice! The first time I didn't know what the sound was, because I'd never heard it before. You know how it is, you hear a beeping and you look around-- phone? air fryer? clock? is it someone on TV? Then I saw it was the Libre2 reader. (I use the reader, not my phone--my phone already has so much cr@p on it!) My FBG was 79! It hasn't been that low in 30+ years. And then again this evening it went off-- BG of 70. I had a salmon filet for lunch and about a dozen sweet potato fries. Nothing else. I endorse the use of a CGM. It really keeps you on top of what your BG is doing. Very important.2 points
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Do not try to stop me
2 pointsIf your pancreas is not making enough (or any) insulin, is a pancreas transplant in the cards for you? (I almost wrote, "in the carbs for you" 😄.) My late husband (died 25 yrs ago) was a type 1 diabetic for decades before quick and easy glucometers were available, let alone CGMs. He had a kidney transplant in 1992, but of course, was still insulin dependent. Pancreas transplants were just beginning to be talked about. He did get an insulin pump, but it was probably pretty primitive compared to today's. I haven't kept up with medical news about that.2 points
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Sleep Duration and Quality
Sleep Duration and Quality
Geezy and one other reacted to Scott F. for a post in a topic
2 pointsWithout the nicotine and caffeine your six hours may increase, maybe not a full 1.5 to 2 hours you are looking for, but I would guess it would be an increase. Our sleep is nearly identical. I am a lifelong shift worker. I always have slept from around 9 to around 3AM when sleeping at night. If I am sleeping the daytime (which I sleep better during the day) I sleep from 9AM til about 4PM. The difference for on carnivore is that when I wake, I am up. There is no rolling over and going back to sleep. Even my days off start about 4AM. I am one of those "weirdos" in the gym at 4:30AM. My sleep is solid and I awake feeling well rested. I am probably in that 6-hour range as well. As far as the pizza and the nine hours, that is well beyond me. Other than the stomach yelling at the brain saying, "I'm going to be here awhile with this extra stuff-keep him down for a couple extra hours". I too drink milk. I don't drink a gallon a day and don't drink it every day but three to four times per week. When I was losing weight (95lbs over 12-13 months or so) anytime I drank milk it was like an automatic stall. One glass of milk seemed to stop my weight loss in its tracks. Once I started hovering around 95lbs lost I picked back up on the milk. Good luck. Hopefully you can find those other two hours of sleep. Scott2 points -
Figuring it out
1 pointBeen on a journey to better health for 4 1/2 years. Much has changed. Finally I am consistent in my eating. Many issues are gone. My diet is mostly BBBE. Like 95+ percent. I do need to loose 25 pounds of fat. So that is an issue. And I need to maintain my Blood Glucose Level (BGL) between 70 - 130 mh/dL, with the BBBE diet and insulin. Unfortunately, when using insulin the weight control becomes a challenge. So I am increasing exercise. Not many other options. I appear to be be more T1D than T2DM. Soon will check C-peptide and some enzymes to better define my diabetes. My focus for 2026 is along those lines. I eat once a day. Going to be a ling slow year in 2026. I have tried many things to get to where I am at. I know there is no magic. My mind is open.1 point
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On to 2026
1 pointLike it or not each of us for the most part are on our own. Our health journey is self directed. No government, no doctor, no anything. I personally sort through you tube and Google. Sorting out what I need the best I can. My objectives in the first quarter of 2026 are: 1. Continue to eat as low carb as possible. 2. Increase my exercise level. 3. Test my C-peptide and enzyme level to. see where my T2DM is at. 4. Somehow trim 1 pound a week off. 5. Continue to improve my metabolic health. Not sure exactly here. I am not in a bad place, just need to be more optimal.1 point
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New glasses coming
1 pointGot an eye exam, ordered glasses. Total bill was like $ 1100. I paid about 250. Insurance covered far more than I expected. So 10 to 14 days and I hope to see better.1 point
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The Women Who Ate Only Fruit... DIED!
Being carnivore for 4+ years, as I read i could hear the other side using thus to point out the dangers of a carnivore diet. Oh well. I remember raising my kids, a family that was in our church was vegan. They talked about it at every opportunity and to me seemed to enjoy the attention. The whole family was pencil, stick thin. Many thought they were so 'healthy'. Any how, I know this my kids and now my grandkids, all do not float in water (pool) which means they atr on the lean side, muscle and bones. My grandkids are very active, athletic and fit. They are rather serious about Traditional Irish Dance, in competition they medal regularly. They have lots of human powered wheeled things like skates, scooters, and bikes. Where they live the recreation department holds running races by age group every other Sunday afternoon. They mostly win. My daughter restricts excessive carbs.1 point
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The Women Who Ate Only Fruit... DIED!
Yep. I think it was as much the eating disorder as what she was actually eating. She could have picked all vegetables or all roots or all just about anything and found troubles. I would venture a guess to say it was the fact it was an eating disorder because she never recognized she was orchestrating her own demise. Thoughts and prayers for her, her friends and her family. Hopefully there is a lesson learned. Scott1 point
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New glasses coming
1 pointGot that, done it much if my life.1 point
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New glasses coming
1 pointGood deal. I don’t have eye care insurance but I’ve been able to negotiate cash prices but it’s still expensive.1 point
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The Women Who Ate Only Fruit... DIED!
I Renee when that happened. It was so sad. She had an eating disorder for sure.1 point
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interesting video-carnivore/milk
interesting video-carnivore/milk
Jamie Henry Brown reacted to Geezy for a post in a topic
1 pointNever been a problem for me. It helps me keep weight on. As long as one is staying as minimal carb as possible then the Randle Cycle shouldn’t be an issue I’d think.1 point -
On to 2026
1 pointWe are responsible for our own health. I have no other goals in the coming new year but to serve my Lord as best I can.1 point
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PCSK9
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Too much data?
1 pointI can not verify this, but I am suspicious in how the algorithm handles the data in deciding wgat data to ignore1 point
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A massive F you to Seed Oil Influencers
A massive F you to Seed Oil Influencers
Jamie Henry Brown reacted to Geezy for a post in a topic
1 pointI hear you Jamie. I find it disgusting since I learned the truth. There is a movement afoot out there and we have at least one advocate in Washington on our side but I’m afraid that there is just too much money on their side to do much damage to them. The best we can do is get the word out and fight them with our wallets. Our Thanksgiving turkey was deep fried but we used lard. It’s definitely better than peanut oil.1 point -
A massive F you to Seed Oil Influencers
A massive F you to Seed Oil Influencers
Jamie Henry Brown reacted to Scott F. for a post in a topic
1 pointSo how, exactly, do you feel about seed oils? LOL Agreed. I haven't had but a tad of seed oils in the last 19 months. We have eaten out two or three times over that period, one they were nice enough to scrape the grill and cook in butter, the second time they said they did but they didn't and the third time I didn't bother asking. We don't eat out hardly ever, even before carnivore. We have a cabin next to the house and it has turned out to be everyone's favorite place to go. We always ask, "wanna go out to eat tonight?", "maybe, but I will be good with a steak on the grill out at the cabin" and then., "the cabin it is". My son deep fried a turkey for Thanksgiving and it was pretty good cooked in peanut oil. I fried one the following Saturday in tallow I had made and I "think' mine tasted better but several could not tell the difference. But I agree, seed oils are no good. Scott1 point -
High uric acid
1 pointI can't help here. I do recall , I think, dr berry has discussed this in a short video. Search utube , dr berry uric acid1 point
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The Holiday Cheesecakes are done
1 pointA chocolate, a pumpkin, and a plain/lemon. All baked, chilled, and portion into containers and in the freezer. 1.5 pounds of Philadelphia cream cheese in each one ! They are very carnivore. This will get me to the new year with very few carbs. I might try a batch or two of a low carb cookie recipe. My thanksgiving is home alone. As the grand kids will be on the road in Irish Dance Competitions. I bought two good size packages of turkey thighs for the crock pot.1 point
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The Holiday Cheesecakes are done
1 pointIt is satisfying, keeps me out of carbs trouble1 point
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Smart phone, ughh
1 pointI was having issues with my Libre Plus CGM. The manufacturer guided me through an extensive trouble shoot. A phones issue, a few days ago the phone software update was unsuccessful. Fixed it. Then was told to uninstall my Libre App. I choose the wrong sequence of steps to do so. My Blood Glucose Monitor data is now in two separate files that can not be put back together i am told. At any rate, the CGMis functioning better. So I going to order some labs, 90 days from the last. A1c, CMP, and a Lipid panel. Going forward i will track with labs as a base.1 point
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America’s Most Popular Cooking Oil Linked to Obesity in New Study
America’s Most Popular Cooking Oil Linked to Obesity in New StudyDec 01, 2025 at 10:18 AM EST By Jasmine Laws, US News Reporter A new study has found that soybean oil contributed to obesity in mice, prompting concern that the United States' most popular cooking oil could be playing a role in the country's obesity problem. The University of California, Riverside study, published in the Journal of Lipid Research in October, investigated how mice metabolized linoleic acid, an omega-6 fatty acid widely present in soybean oil, by feeding them a high-fat diet based on the common cooking oil. While the study was conducted on mice, Frances Sladek, a UCR professor of cell biology and author of the study, told Newsweek that the findings "were translatable to humans as the pathways we found involved in soybean oil-induced obesity are highly conserved between mouse and human." Why It MattersSoybean oil is by far the most widely used cooking oil in the country, with rapeseed oil second and palm oil third, according to data from Statista. Soybean oil is also made up of more than 50 percent linoleic acid, Sladek said. The finding raises notable concern, not only because of the oil's popularity, but also because of America's high obesity rates—one in five children and two in five adults are obese in the U.S., meaning they have a Body Mass Index (BMI) higher than 30. Obesity is known to be associated with higher risks of health problems, including diabetes, heart disease and strokes. The American diet has also been called into question by studies previously, as last year a study found that the majority of Americans ate a diet that promoted inflammation, increasing the risk of diseases such as heart disease, obesity, diabetes, depression and certain cancers. Stock image: A person pours soybean oil into a frying pan. | coffeekai/Getty Images What To KnowThe study specifically examined the effects of molecules called oxylipins on mice. These molecules are what linoleic acid is broken down into in the body, and so the higher the consumption of the acid, the higher the amount of these molecules will be in the body. While other fatty acids also break down into oxylipins, the oxylipins derived from linoleic acid were the ones the authors found contributed to obesity in mice. The finding is not new; the researchers noted this result in a previous study. What they did differently in this study was test the impact of a diet high in soybean oil in a group of male mice genetically engineered to express a different version of a liver regulatory gene, P2-HNF4α. This meant they had different metabolic pathways from the control group, as the genetic change reduced the activity of enzymes that convert linoleic acid into oxylipins. The researchers found that the modified mice had healthier livers and gained less weight than the control group on the same diet, further supporting the idea that oxylipins contribute to obesity. “This may be the first step toward understanding why some people gain weight more easily than others on a diet high in soybean oil,” said Sonia Deol, a UCR biomedical scientist and another author of the study. Although the researchers also note that the genetically modified mice had elevated oxylipins on a low-fat diet without becoming obese, suggesting that other metabolic factors are at play. Sladek said that they found that "it is the levels of the oxylipins present in the liver, not circulating in the blood, that correlate with obesity." However, he said that they aren't yet certain about "exactly how the oxylipins drive obesity." How Much Soybean Oil Do Americans Actually Consume?Consuming a small amount of linoleic acid is actually required for human health and is part of a healthy diet; however, the researchers noted that America has had a "remarkable increase" in its consumption of the oil over the past 50 years. The required amount of linoleic acid for health is around 1 to 2 percent of a person's calorific intake, the study authors noted, as small amounts play an important role in maintaining good health. Most Americans broadly have a much higher intake of linoleic acid at around 15 to 25 percent of their calorific intake, the study authors said. Sladek said that consuming small amounts of soybean oil is "perfectly safe and provides a good source of the essential fatty acid linoleic acid." He said that the problem is that "processed foods are becoming an ever larger part of our diet and many of those foods have soybean oil in them, or they have corn oil, safflower seed oil, sunflower seed oil — all these seed oils are made up of large amounts of linoleic acid, just like soybean oil." "So in general, we are taking in much more of these seed oils, all of which have high levels of linoleic acid, than our body needs," he added. What Does Soybean Oil Do to Your Body?It is not clear from the study how these findings would translate to the human body, and further research is needed to determine the impact of soybean oil on human health. However, the study authors note that the findings suggest the possible link warrants further investigation. Sladek said: "It took 100 years from the first observed link between chewing tobacco and cancer to get warning labels on cigarettes. We hope it won’t take that long for society to recognize the link between excessive soybean oil consumption and negative health effects." He also told Newsweek that in previous research, the team found that the soybean oil could impact the intestines, the microbiome and the hypothalamus. He said that while there is a growing body of evidence indicating that dietary linoleic acid is beneficial for the heart, "we have not looked at the impact of a soybean oil diet on the heart." "Different organs will respond differently to dietary linoleic acid and more research in general needs to be done," Sladek added. Other experts are not convinced of the findings, though. Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian, the director of the Food is Medicine Institute at Tufts University, told Newsweek: "Much of the original research suggesting harms of omega-6 [polyunsaturated fatty acids], like this study, was done in mice or rats." "We’ve since clearly learned that humans are not mice, and that these effects don’t translate to what’s seen in humans," Mozaffarian said. "In mice, for example, high fat diets (from any source) cause obesity, whereas in humans, carbs are the problem." He said that in controlled trials in humans, soybean oil and omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids were found to "improve blood cholesterol levels, improve glucose control, and lower risk of heart attacks," while in "observational studies," these oils are "linked to less weight gain and obesity risk." Mozaffarian said that soybean oil is a "healthy oil for cooking," and pointed to studies finding that a tablespoon and a half daily of soybean oil could reduce the risk of coronary heart disease, that the oil does not have pro-inflammatory effects, and that those who consumed 5 grams a day had a lower risk of "all-cause mortality." ARTICLE SOURCE: https://www.newsweek.com/soybean-oil-linked-to-obesity-study-111339401 point
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Looks like Tapatalk is dying
Looks like Tapatalk is dying
Jamie Henry Brown reacted to Bob for a post in a topic
1 pointIn the past it was painful to view forums on a mobile device, so Tapatalk was the solution. It's not so important for us today though. The software than runs Carnivore Talk has a pretty good mobile display using a regular browser.1 point -
All i watch ...
1 pointAs soon as I was enlightened and found out the truth about statins I got off of them. It drives my PCP nuts but I’m switching to a new doctor so I’ll see what kind of talks we get into about the subject.1 point
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Inspirational reading
Inspirational reading
Bob reacted to oldandlean for a post in a topic
1 pointI'm now re-reading a book that I read in six days. Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins. Unbelievably inspiring. Three thumbs up...borrowing a thumb1 point -
Inspirational reading
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Inspirational reading
1 pointI read some passages a few weeks ago. I enjoy his videos. Straight to the point. Scott1 point
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Smart phone, ughh
1 pointI held on to my flip phone with nothing but text and calls, and didn't so texting for the longest. Once I get past email and youtube my tech skills fade fast. Good luck. Scott1 point
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Don't be a Militant Carnivore Cop! [Video/Podcast]
Hopefully I can be off on a Monday night soon and stop by. Been over a month now. Hope all is well. I will more than likely rewatch Tuesday morning. Scott1 point
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0nly 3 full days but it is a personal best
A full day 3 done, ZERO carbs,ZERO fast acting insulins, and had to cut long acting insulin by 30% i know some Primary Care Physicians would be outraged. They do not want a 69 year old diabetic having a BGL of 70 walking around. Many Physicians label me as a non compliant patient. Ok, I get it. So I reject vaccinations, i self diagnose , I self medicated. The doctors seem saddened I am allergic to statins. Thank you God for that allergy. Here is to a day 4 band hopefully beyond of thr same. U b well.1 point
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0nly 3 full days but it is a personal best
I was a little concerned my streak was coming to a halt. I adjusted my Long Acting insulin and did some exercise. All is well, day 4 is fine. Praise to my lifestyle.1 point
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0nly 3 full days but it is a personal best
Amen, yes indeed. Day 4 is in the bag. Just adjusting the long acting insulin. U b well1 point
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0nly 3 full days but it is a personal best
The medical community shows its ignorance on a daily basis. To lump everyone into one category as if we are all alike is the utmost form of ignorance. You and you alone are responsible for your health and what’s best for you.1 point
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0nly 3 full days but it is a personal best
Maybe, perhaps. I would not bet against me. If you do bet against me you may never have a lucky day. As will sonnet said no brag, just facts1 point
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0nly 3 full days but it is a personal best
Great job. The only way to eat an elephant is one bite at a time. Scott1 point
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Do not try to stop me
1 pointOk, carnivore has fixed a lot of things for me. Only one thing left. The diabetes. Is no fun at all. I eat virtually Zero carbs a day and I like a Type one Diabetic. I need insulin to stay between 70 to 140 mg/dL my CGM reports i maintain that 85% of the time. The other 15 % is like between 141 and 160. I imagine as time goes on i will grow more steady. I the near future i will ask my doc to test my C-peptide again to see how much insulin my pancreas is making. Also test for the enzyme to see if it am now LADA.1 point
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Do not try to stop me
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Not my first rodeo...
1 pointI'm the guiltiest but carnivore is automatically associated with weight loss and tons of people (like me) see it as another weight loss hack. If the lead off was the health benefits that come from carnivore and not just health benefits from just losing weight, but carnivore itself, it would move even faster into the mainstream. I still find myself leading off with "I'm on carnivore and lost........" when I should be talking about "I'm on carnivore and I have not taken medicine for NMO/SD for pain and inflammation since June of 24. My blood sugar is around 80 every day and my energy levels are constant throughout the day even as the work load increases, the ability to continue remains". But, it is the weight loss that rings the loudest. Scott1 point