challenge "World Carnivore Month" January Challenge!

[Joanna]

5 hours ago, Bob said:

I'm just catching up on this topic and wanted to mention that sugar is indeed a drug. They say that sugar addiction rivals that of your strongest and most addictive street drugs. And the withdrawals symptoms of cutting them out is akin to the withdrawal symptoms of 'going clean'.

So the drug analogy is very apropos.

It gives me more understanding of why I’ve had such a hard time staying away from treats - until going carnivore.

[Joanna]

Will there be another zoom meeting on Monday the 20th?

[Orweller]

1 hour ago, Joanna said:

The crazy thing is that the sugar she was getting was from organic whole fruits, some gluten free bread and things like rice and oatmeal. We’re not even talking about processed junk with added sugar!!

Yup, sugar = sugar = sugar. Period. 

[Orweller]

1 hour ago, Joanna said:

Will there be another zoom meeting on Monday the 20th?

Me thinks it's a weekly thing. 

[Orweller]

1 hour ago, Joanna said:

Woah!!,

I think I read that in Robert Lustig's book "Metabolical". Not sure. 

[Geezy]

2 hours ago, Joanna said:

The crazy thing is that the sugar she was getting was from organic whole fruits, some gluten free bread and things like rice and oatmeal. We’re not even talking about processed junk with added sugar!!

Fruits can be some of the worst because their sugars are fructose and go straight to the liver to be metabolized. 

[Carburetor]

Sausages can be deceiving,too. In addition to destroying my OMAD, because of Sauna Day, these guys have one gram of carbs each.

I don't know why? Nothing would change for worse for anyone if they just cut that last carb out. Must be flour.

 

[Geezy]

4 hours ago, Carburetor said:

Sausages can be deceiving,too. In addition to destroying my OMAD, because of Sauna Day, these guys have one gram of carbs each.

I don't know why? Nothing would change for worse for anyone if they just cut that last carb out. Must be flour.

 

You are absolutely correct. You have to read ingredient labels. They hide sugar and grains in them. I read the label on a package of chorizo that I used to buy frequently and besides all the other junk it had in it there was soy grits in it.  WTH! What are soy grits and what are they doing in my sausage. I no longer but store bought sausage. I have a processor that can make my sausage custom to what I want and I can make my own as well. 

[Scott F.]

I think if we truly analyzed the ingredients in our packaged foods we would be amazed and then pissed and maybe even disgusted at what is used as fillers and binders.

When I worked some construction with my Pops way back when he used to say all the time when we hit mom & pop grills in the area, "there's nothing wrong with the hotdog as long as you don't look in the back". 

If we know/if we knew I feel like it would have helped me move into better eating.

Ignorance is bliss.

Scott

[Carburetor]

1 hour ago, Geezy said:

You are absolutely correct. You have to read ingredient labels. They hide sugar and grains in them. I read the label on a package of chorizo that I used to buy frequently and besides all the other junk it had in it there was soy grits in it.  WTH! What are soy grits and what are they doing in my sausage. I no longer but store bought sausage. I have a processor that can make my sausage custom to what I want and I can make my own as well. 

Dang.

I also just found out that my recent new finding,a very nice fatty smoked bacon has GLUCOSE. No lactase nor gluten, they got rid of those - and added straight glucose. Only one gram per 100 g but in my diet that could make me digest three grams of pure glucose per day, while thinking i´m not getting any carbs,not to mention straight sugar.

It has 30 g fat / 10 g protein / 100 g,so excellent macros... and then it has to be destroyed with sugar. Wrong!

 

I´ll add a link,please excuse my finnish:

https://www.k-ruoka.fi/kauppa/tuote/pirkka-palvikylki-n300g-ylikypsa-2386450400002

[Orweller]

10 hours ago, Carburetor said:

Sausages can be deceiving,too. In addition to destroying my OMAD, because of Sauna Day, these guys have one gram of carbs each.

I don't know why? Nothing would change for worse for anyone if they just cut that last carb out. Must be flour.

 

A carnivore diet does not exclude carbs entirely. Carnivore as a species specific and species appropriate diet consists 75% or more of meat. That's being hyper carnivore. I'm saying there's room for a sausage here and there. Do we need carbs? not ever. Would I worry about food with 1 carb? that's not needed either. Go eat that delicious looking sausage. 

[Geezy]

6 hours ago, Carburetor said:

Dang.

I also just found out that my recent new finding,a very nice fatty smoked bacon has GLUCOSE. No lactase nor gluten, they got rid of those - and added straight glucose. Only one gram per 100 g but in my diet that could make me digest three grams of pure glucose per day, while thinking i´m not getting any carbs,not to mention straight sugar.

It has 30 g fat / 10 g protein / 100 g,so excellent macros... and then it has to be destroyed with sugar. Wrong!

 

I´ll add a link,please excuse my finnish:

https://www.k-ruoka.fi/kauppa/tuote/pirkka-palvikylki-n300g-ylikypsa-2386450400002

That is exactly how it can build up without use being aware if it happening. A little here, a little there. It can all add up. 

[Joanna]

12 hours ago, Carburetor said:

Sausages can be deceiving,too. In addition to destroying my OMAD, because of Sauna Day, these guys have one gram of carbs each.

I don't know why? Nothing would change for worse for anyone if they just cut that last carb out. Must be flour.

 

That is so disappointing!

[Meathead]

1 hour ago, Orweller said:

Go eat that delicious looking sausage. 

That's what I told her 

[Joanna]

Another good day. It makes it so much easier and more fun doing this with my daughter and granddaughter. We’re getting our recipes down. Dumplings made from ground beef mixed with bacon and beef liver blended up in the food processor and then made into balls and put in simmering water for five minutes. We all thought they were delicious. Pancakes made from ground beef and eggs and butter in the blender. Another favorite.

[Carburetor]

13 hours ago, Orweller said:

A carnivore diet does not exclude carbs entirely. Carnivore as a species specific and species appropriate diet consists 75% or more of meat. That's being hyper carnivore. I'm saying there's room for a sausage here and there. Do we need carbs? not ever. Would I worry about food with 1 carb? that's not needed either. Go eat that delicious looking sausage. 

Yes I ate that.

But. Even in keto, I like my carbs under five grams. I feel the best and get no cravings, been like that for 20 years. So two sausages like that plus a sugary pack of bacon (that I mentioned above) for dinner give me five grams of flour and sugar.

I´d rather take those carbs in a different form from broccoli,sauerkraut and nuts. But there´s no room now.

"One gram of carbs" sounds ridiculous to many,I know. But so does "One beer does not matter!" when you say that to an alcoholic.

I´m aiming a transition into proper carni soon. It will be meat and eggs only for simplicity´s sake. Nothing plant,no dairy except probably,maybe butter. I may adjust from that later on but I find it easier to start from zero.Then I can tell what is causing what.

My heart resting rate changes,if any, are especially interesting.

Edited 4 hours ago by Carburetor

[Joanna]

Hi, I can’t remember what time the zoom meeting is or how to join. Could someone help me with that?