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On 1/26/2025 at 2:24 PM, Nemo said:

In general European prices are higher for a matter of quality and cost production related to it. But swedish prices are not related to quality. Swedish meat is not any better than meat for example from Italy even tho the prices are about double; the main differance is that here workers have much more rights, and those rights come to a cost. Here i personally know people that got 3 weeks off for an 'inflamation to the big toe'. 😂

In Italy i had a piece of iron going through my arm while working, cutting through the muscle, and the company was mad cause the Doc gave me a full week at home. took me about two months to be able to use again the arm and i was working on a manual job using a single arm 😅

In The Netherlands it works like that as well. Lots of vacation, sick days, everything taken care of, but high taxes, etc. That indeed is separate from quality. But within the EU you have regulations that make food safer and better, and there is a cost involved. 

 

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fellas, i gotta share my sorrow. i just got back from 4 different grocery stores. Not an inch of ground beef nor stake and i managed to grab the last piece of Chuck. 🥹 apparently there is not enough supply and i will have to wait a couple of weeks to get some. I was just starting to get better by dropping pork. i'm considering turning to cannibalism 😅.

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On 1/25/2025 at 3:04 PM, Carburetor said:

 

To Nemo, I did not understand why minced meat by itself would be bad either. But the vet who told me about it was from Eastern Europe with horrible minced meat experiences there, she said "there can be anything" and that means chemicals,too. Who knows. Maybe the bad practises,whatever they are,are universal now?

It would be interesting to know if the vet was from a EU eastern european country, of from outside the EU. cause as we were saying with Orweller, the difference lies in the regulations which are common between non-EU european countries and the US. I'm wondering if what affected you dog could have been not the ground beef itself, but maybe all the products added to raise the animal, or the preservatives added to the meat.

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1 hour ago, Nemo said:

fellas, i gotta share my sorrow. i just got back from 4 different grocery stores. Not an inch of ground beef nor stake and i managed to grab the last piece of Chuck. 🥹 apparently there is not enough supply and i will have to wait a couple of weeks to get some. I was just starting to get better by dropping pork. i'm considering turning to cannibalism 😅.

Do you live in a small town? or is this the norm in Sweden? Surely you gotta have plenty of fish, right? 

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1 hour ago, Nemo said:

It would be interesting to know if the vet was from a EU eastern european country, of from outside the EU. cause as we were saying with Orweller, the difference lies in the regulations which are common between non-EU european countries and the US. I'm wondering if what affected you dog could have been not the ground beef itself, but maybe all the products added to raise the animal, or the preservatives added to the meat.

It could be simply coloring (chemicals). 

Posted (edited)

Not a small town. Unfortunately one of the harderst things for me moving to sweden was that they have very very little choice when it comes to meat and fish as well (surprising). very little variety of animals, and also very little variety of cuts of meat. finding liver is hard, i gotta drive 1 hour for it, but things like brain, heart, etc, is something unseen here. meat is bought almost exclusively in groerystores cause butchery shops are not a thing (no idea why). A lot of animals that i am able to find in my home country are unavaible here, even common ones like horses, donkeys, rabbits, goose  (i miss horsy meat and donkey sausages). For some reason they tend to prefer extra lean cuts of meat so most of the minced meat and steaks you'll find are 90/10-95/5, dry as sin. from what i've seen in the years, cow is the least avaible animal among the few avaible ones. When you get down to the deep south of the country, things are less like I described them and more similar to a common european standard, but in the arctic circle choices are narrowed down to very few options. after christmas i haven't seen cow meat in the grocerystores for a whole 3weeks cause they were out of it.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Orweller said:

It could be simply coloring (chemicals). 

totally an option.

Posted
3 hours ago, Nemo said:

Not a small town. Unfortunately one of the harderst things for me moving to sweden was that they have very very little choice when it comes to meat and fish as well (surprising). very little variety of animals, and also very little variety of cuts of meat. finding liver is hard, i gotta drive 1 hour for it, but things like brain, heart, etc, is something unseen here. meat is bought almost exclusively in groerystores cause butchery shops are not a thing (no idea why). A lot of animals that i am able to find in my home country are unavaible here, even common ones like horses, donkeys, rabbits, goose  (i miss horsy meat and donkey sausages). For some reason they tend to prefer extra lean cuts of meat so most of the minced meat and steaks you'll find are 90/10-95/5, dry as sin. from what i've seen in the years, cow is the least avaible animal among the few avaible ones. When you get down to the deep south of the country, things are less like I described them and more similar to a common european standard, but in the arctic circle choices are narrowed down to very few options. after christmas i haven't seen cow meat in the grocerystores for a whole 3weeks cause they were out of it.

Start hunting seals bro. 😂

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1 month almost done! Hope you are all doing well with Carnivore.

Someone (way back in thread) mentioned having a little dark chocolate for bowel movement - it was a slippery slope and I have been having to many sneaky treats... Careful with that!

Continuing in February with no chocolate...

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Nearly finished with my first month. Can honestly say I have not cheated once!  I’m down 14 pounds.  Today was my second OMAD and I have to say, I get pretty hungry before the 24 hours is up.  I’ve been hitting the gym daily.

 

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