Aldous Huxley was far ahead of his time; probably more than he even knew himself. Born in the late 1800s and living until the 1960s, he wrote the book "Brave New World" That showed how people could be enslaved and controlled by making a society that was so comfortable and devoid of meaning that they didn't even realize they were slaves in the first place.

This insight, into modern medical science shows exactly what we have become, which is an institution of disease management, and as you can't manage diseases that don't exist, and managing those diseases is really big money, the design of the system is never to cure, and may even be rife with examples of making things worse. As Mr Huxley said this nearly 100 years ago, imagine what he would think of the world today?

Unfortunately the incentive model is completely backwards, instead of rewarding people for curing diseases we are now rewarding people for maintaining those diseases, and even perpetuating those diseases, as the medications to make you feel more comfortable are so profitable, and they act as a tithe on the entire population who has to constantly pay a significant portion of their income to just try to make their medical issues bearable.

Have you noticed the same thing in your medical care? What clinicians here have seen the same thing, and who is going to help Change the system back to what it used to be and is supposed to be?, below and let me know your thoughts.

Anthony Chaffee

How do we get medicine, research, education etc to be non profit?

On 5/7/2025 at 3:13 PM, Miranda said:

How do we get medicine, research, education etc to be non profit?

It's a struggle for sure.

Basically, we need people whose LOVE for people, for knowledge, and for truth to volunteer their time and resources. But for most of us, time is limited, and time is money. So subsidizing it through voluntary donations and or fund drives is the only thing I can think of.

It's a little harder to think this way here in the USA where the almighty dollar rules everything.

It is funny to me that is how much of us think.

Every study I read just as I get into the content, as well as the intent, I start thinking about which side of the fence funded the study. And in turn, if the study "supports" the "funders" it sort of loses a little bit of its luster.

If it goes against the grain a bit I think 'maybe a little unbiased honesty?".

Scott

Studies are not worth reading.

Ed goeke

Bart Kay and alot of other drs say the same thing.

Trust yourself and your gut.

On 5/14/2025 at 3:36 PM, Bob said:

It's a struggle for sure.

Basically, we need people whose LOVE for people, for knowledge, and for truth to volunteer their time and resources. But for most of us, time is limited, and time is money. So subsidizing it through voluntary donations and or fund drives is the only thing I can think of.

It's a little harder to think this way here in the USA where the almighty dollar rules everything.

Bob, Bob, Bob - Wake up. it's time for school. you must have been dreaming? 😂 In the U.S. you need to be your own doctor for anything you can handle yourself. Now if you break your leg or need surgery, well then you are in their hands. Hopefully you won't have to spend a night in the hospital and eat their crappy nutrition!

5 hours ago, Terry said:

Hopefully you won't have to spend a night in the hospital and eat their crappy nutrition!

Lol! I’ve told my wife that if I ever have to stay in a hospital again she’s going to be kept busy bringing me food because I never intend to eat that junk they call food in a hospital again.

9 hours ago, Geezy said:

Lol! I’ve told my wife that if I ever have to stay in a hospital again she’s going to be kept busy bringing me food because I never intend to eat that junk they call food in a hospital again.

Also be glad your not a student in any public school in the U.S. eating what "they" call lunch. not sure what other countries do for school lunches but the U.S. has always been horrible for my 64 years. I remember in 1976, in high school for a morning snack before class you could buy toasted Crappy white bread for 5 cents a slice and a scoop of peanut butter for 25 cents or fried little doughnuts for 25 cents. We would buy stacks of toast and mounds of doughnuts every day, and who can forget the sheet pan pizzas or mock chicken legs they would serve? but I guess if you included sliced peaches or some fruit cocktail and a brownie then that was a balanced lunch 🤣🤣🤣

11 hours ago, Terry said:

Also be glad your not a student in any public school in the U.S. eating what "they" call lunch. not sure what other countries do for school lunches but the U.S. has always been horrible

I hear you. I graduated in 74. I remember well the bad lunches we had back then. In our cafeteria we had the regular serving line and a snack bar. I hit that snack bar everyday eating a burger and chips. My kids never ate a school lunch. My wife always packed them a lunch.

Edited May 17, 2025May 17 by Geezy

Agreed with all.

But the rectangle sheet pizzas were awesome.

I came off the farm (my parents were not owners but workers) and what we ate normally came off the farm. Maybe once a month we ate out. the grandkids would volunteer for a battle to the death to go with my grandma to the grocery store on Saturday morning. She would buy us a hotdog, fries and a 6 1/2 ounce small coke.

The 'square' pizza was a real treat when I was in school. Healthy? Nope. But did I look forward to them? Absolutely. I graduated on '87 and still remember Thursday was pizza day.

Scott

My school lunches were absolute junk, marketed as "healthy".

My mother would pack my lunch in the 80's, but it was terrible. PB&J, fruit roll up, oatmeal cream pie, and some raisins to make it legit, lol. I hated my packed lunches, and when possible would beg my dad to pack my lunch instead. He would make a decent sandwich on "whole wheat" bread with meats, lettuce, tomato, and mayo. Much better than the PB&J.

I would literally trade my sugary lunch packings for someone else's bologna sandwich, carrot sticks, apple, etc. Other kids hated their parents for trying to make them eat whole foods, and when I wanted to trade them for my fruit roll ups, oatmeal cream pies, and granola bars, the other kids were like "hell yeah!" lol :D

 

On 5/15/2025 at 5:33 PM, Terry said:

In the U.S. you need to be your own doctor for anything you can handle yourself. Now if you break your leg or need surgery, well then you are in their hands. Hopefully you won't have to spend a night in the hospital and eat their crappy nutrition!

Believe it or not my local hospital serves great food. When I was in there for my broken ankle I was able to eat carnivore off their menu with ease.

We were very lucky. My school made very good food and I never had cold lunch except for field trips. In HS it was a la carta...none of it looked good ... family was struggling due to recession ... I usually didn't eat until I got home at the end of the day. The unintentional omad was the only thing keeping me from becoming obese

13 hours ago, Scott F. said:

Agreed with all.

But the rectangle sheet pizzas were awesome.

I came off the farm (my parents were not owners but workers) and what we ate normally came off the farm. Maybe once a month we ate out. the grandkids would volunteer for a battle to the death to go with my grandma to the grocery store on Saturday morning. She would buy us a hotdog, fries and a 6 1/2 ounce small coke.

The 'square' pizza was a real treat when I was in school. Healthy? Nope. But did I look forward to them? Absolutely. I graduated on '87 and still remember Thursday was pizza day.

Scott

Pizza day from my school memories really is a standout. It's permanently burned into my brain. It was so tasty! If i could accurately reproduce it I would just to eat a slice (or 3), just for the memories 🤣

12 minutes ago, Terry said:

Pizza day from my school memories really is a standout. It's permanently burned into my brain. It was so tasty! If i could accurately reproduce it I would just to eat a slice (or 3), just for the memories 🤣

Yeah pizza day was special even though in reality it wasn’t really all that good a pizza but a day of bad pizza is still better than a day of no pizza. (Stolen and paraphrased from the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers)


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