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Many struggle, many help, but at times it is cruel. People on you tube pointing out there is no need for pharmaceuticals. If you are taking any, then we know u are not eating the proper human diet. Broad strokes of the brush. The proper human diet will fix everything.

That is j just one example. Most of the community is very polite, helpful, supportive and even gracious.

I do not like to see anyone treated poorly. At the end of 2025 I pulled all my financial support from all but two carnivore channels. I support this place, I know $0.99 a month is not a lot. I may grow in the future. The other i support is Target Prime Rib, Thomas. I believe he is honest, truthful, sincere, kindhearted and truly cares.

Just as i see it. There are my good individuals in the carnivore space. My funds atr on Thomas this year.

Thank you.

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9 hours ago, pauls said:

Many struggle, many help, but at times it is cruel. People on you tube pointing out there is no need for pharmaceuticals.

True, people can be dogmatic, which is why some call it the 'carnivore cult' lol. Yes, a lot of people can get off meds, but not everyone. You and me are examples. You with your low production of insulin, and me with my kidney failure resulting in hypertension.

9 hours ago, pauls said:

If you are taking any, then we know u are not eating the proper human diet. Broad strokes of the brush. The proper human diet will fix everything.

Not necessarily. Maybe it will. Maybe it won't. Remember that Dr. Berry coined the term "Proper Human Diet" and then years later the phrase has been hijacked by carnivore purists to refer to carnivore only. It doesn't. It's a spectrum. Carnivore is just one end of it.

And to that end, Dr. Berry is a reasonable voice in the keto-carnivore community. He's a doctor, and still will recommend that you talk to your doctor about getting on a certain drug. He's not anti-meds by any means.

  • Bob changed the title to Carnivore community dogmatism

Other than protein powder as of late I feel like I am strict carnivore. It is meat (mostly red meat), salt and water. I was a non-believer the first month to six weeks as I read about people getting off medicine with their diet. I pretty much had to be hit over the head with it and still it took a few cycles of "this is when I typically need my medicine for pain and inflammation and now I don't need it'. It has worked for me.

I still have an infusion every six months and my neurologist has been one of my biggest supporters. He says he is not completely ready to use meat as a prescription but he does wish a lot of his patients would talk to me and give it a try. (i think, big picture, that is progress). We went over a ton of bloodwork, both mine and others. If I had MS he would stop my infusions as he would consider it no longer and issue based on my labs and health. But, I have NMO, which can lay much more dormant but when/if it returns the relapse is much worse. I can't really imagine things being much worse than 2018. He suggests I remain on the infusion for a while longer but also suggests I continue my current path with my diet and resistance training.

So I don't think eating a proper diet will remove all people from all medicines but I do believe it can help move in that direction. Most carnivores are 40-50+ (based on what little interactions I have with other carnivores) and that automatically translates to close to 50 years of eating horribly. If one believes the poor diet is the cause, a few week or few months might not erase 50 years. After nearly two years (20 months or so) I corrected the need for two medications and maybe in time I will not need the third. I take an infusion every six months and that is the only medicine I take since carnivore. On the right path just not at the very end of 'food vs. pharmaceuticals.

Maybe I am somewhere between being a believer but not ready to drink the kool-aid. LOL

Scott

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