Great visit with my Neurologist today

Scott F. · November 18

Today was my follow up appointment. I had traded emails over the past few months. In the emails she seemed genuinely interested in the Carnivore approach but that failed in comparison to the visit today. As i was walking in she and another Neurologist were talking and I heard 'animal based diet'. I didn't know they were talking about me.

She came in and asked if the other Neurologist could sit in on the visit. The conversation covered my start in May til now. They both asked a number of questions about what I eat, how I feel and the correlation between the diet, the weight loss and the coming off the medicine for inflammation.

I have read many non-doctor you-tubers say how doctors do not actually study nutrition and just go off what has been 'put out' by the fraternity. My Neurologist actually said it out loud. She told me she had become really interested in the carnivore approach in the MS community and its affects.

So interested, she wants me to drop her emails every week or so documenting my progress/setbacks, whatever, just general information.

It was a really good visit.

Scott

Meathead · November 18

Whoop whoop..Scott this is fantastic news .

Very happy for you and the Dr's that attended to today.

Miranda · November 18

Geezy · November 19

That’s great. So many doctors are so mainstream and closed minded that they aren’t willing to learn.
It sounds like you’ve got a good one there.

Orweller · November 19

It's a relief isn't it? It's why I am more willing to deal with a nurse practitioner than a doctor. They have more time to listen and are less indoctrinated.

Scott F. · November 20

A little more good news as well.

In six+ months I have dropped 77lbs and have been off medications after three to four weeks on carnivore.

My immunoglobulin numbers made a pretty good shift across the board. The sets that have been regularly low moved up, some by as much as 15%. Meaning my immune system is working better, more as normal. The sets that had been high (overly active immune system, attacking good proteins vs. bad) those numbers dropped across the board. Instead of having 4 or 5 sets out of their respective range, I now only have two, with one being low and one being high.

I thought the neurologist was genuinely engaged with me and carnivore yesterday, today's conversation was even more so.

My numbers have been jacked up since I got sick in 2018. I went on a couple trash diets and lost as much as 30lbs but zero affect to the NMO/SD. Fast forward to 2024. I went on Carnivore in May and the immunoglobulin numbers moved a little but nothing major after three months. Fast forward another three months and several of the numbers made a shift to the positive. I lost a bunch of weight, but the only real change is the change in diet.

So now the doctor would like to touch base on a weekly/bi-weekly basis to keep check on changes as they play out. She is now doing a deep dive into the Carnivore lifestyle.

She is the doctor, and I am giving her places to do research, learn, become familiar with some of the approaches.

My Google/youtube degree is finally paying off. LOL

Scott

Geezy · November 20

What a great report. I’m excited for you Scott.

Scott F. · November 20

Thank you. Me too.

Whooda thunk it?

LOL

Scott

Orweller · November 20

11 hours ago, Scott F. said:

A little more good news as well.

In six+ months I have dropped 77lbs and have been off medications after three to four weeks on carnivore.

My immunoglobulin numbers made a pretty good shift across the board. The sets that have been regularly low moved up, some by as much as 15%. Meaning my immune system is working better, more as normal. The sets that had been high (overly active immune system, attacking good proteins vs. bad) those numbers dropped across the board. Instead of having 4 or 5 sets out of their respective range, I now only have two, with one being low and one being high.

I thought the neurologist was genuinely engaged with me and carnivore yesterday, today's conversation was even more so.

My numbers have been jacked up since I got sick in 2018. I went on a couple trash diets and lost as much as 30lbs but zero affect to the NMO/SD. Fast forward to 2024. I went on Carnivore in May and the immunoglobulin numbers moved a little but nothing major after three months. Fast forward another three months and several of the numbers made a shift to the positive. I lost a bunch of weight, but the only real change is the change in diet.

So now the doctor would like to touch base on a weekly/bi-weekly basis to keep check on changes as they play out. She is now doing a deep dive into the Carnivore lifestyle.

She is the doctor, and I am giving her places to do research, learn, become familiar with some of the approaches.

My Google/youtube degree is finally paying off. LOL

Scott

Who knows, your doctor maybe frying up some pork chops as we speak!

Orweller · November 20

4 hours ago, Scott F. said:

Thank you. Me too.

Whooda thunk it?

LOL

Scott

The power of an open mind...

Bob · November 23

On 11/18/2024 at 5:45 PM, Scott F. said:

She told me she had become really interested in the carnivore approach in the MS community and its affects.

I've got a friend with MS and he's deteriorating rapidly. Can't work anymore and is waiting on disability. I would love for him to give carnivore a try.

But you know us carnivore, we sound nuts, :default_shrugs:

Scott F. · November 23

I have yet to climb up on the pedestal and preach......but it has worked well for me.

A buddy of mine's wife has MS and she too is not doing well. I gave the spiel on doing it for a weight loss hack and then stumbled upon things even more amazing.

They too acted like I had fallen off the deep end.

I'm hard-headed and a nay-sayer at heart but early on in my diagnosis if I had known/heard of others using this diet to benefit a medical condition, I would have crawled right up on the bandwagon.

I mean if there any possibility of improving one's health, reversing a life-threatening disease and possibly ditching pills and potions....and all I have to is eat steak and drink water. Even a knot head like me would have given it an honest shot.

I found the best benefits purely by accident. Damn near like lottery like so far. (and in some cases, maybe better)

Hopefully your friend gets better. I wish him the best as I know the downsides to a MS condition. Thoughts and prayers.

Scott

Geezy · November 24

2 hours ago, Scott F. said:

I mean if there any possibility of improving one's health, reversing a life-threatening disease and possibly ditching pills and potions....and all I have to is eat steak and drink water. Even a knot head like me would have given it an honest shot.

It’s crazy but I’ve counseled several people from diabetics to those fighting cancer and those who have have totally wrecked their health from a lifetime of eating nothing but crap food and it’s amazing that when presented with a simple means to healing themselves they turn it down in favor of pills, sugar and early death.
I have helped a couple of them and they are doing great but the majority just think it’s ridiculous.
So all we can do is put it out there and be a good example but it’s all up to them.

Orweller · November 24

1 hour ago, Geezy said:

It’s crazy but I’ve counseled several people from diabetics to those fighting cancer and those who have have totally wrecked their health from a lifetime of eating nothing but crap food and it’s amazing that when presented with a simple means to healing themselves they turn it down in favor of pills, sugar and early death.
I have helped a couple of them and they are doing great but the majority just think it’s ridiculous.
So all we can do is put it out there and be a good example but it’s all up to them.

People only see when they want to see.

Meathead · November 24

I think I read about similar situation when they offered a better life.

History repeats itself just a different way

meljel1 · November 24

1 hour ago, Geezy said:

It’s crazy but I’ve counseled several people from diabetics to those fighting cancer and those who have totally wrecked their health from a lifetime of eating nothing but crap food and it’s amazing that when presented with a simple means to healing themselves they turn it down in favor of pills, sugar and early death.
I have helped a couple of them, and they are doing great, I just think it’s ridiculous.
So, all we can do is put it out there and be a good example but it’s all up to them.

You know the funny thing is that people really have been eating this way since the dawn of time, thousands and thousands of years, Protein and fat has been their main thing they consumed. Indians and many others including traders in the 1800's and so, people who built this country ate primarily a protein diet. They did have gardens and farms, but you are talking about an era that there were no real contamination of pesticides and chemicals the way we have it today. Everything basically today is man made, with dangerous toxins and chemicals to the point are poor bodies cannot handle any of it. They are reacting back, first time in history all of us are in serious trouble because of this era. Which really makes no sense to me at all, we seem to know it all, but apparently, we haven't learned much, because if we don't remember where we came from our past, we are doomed. The other thing we allow toxins and different chemicals in our food and environment WHEN other countries in Europe and well many others, will not allow it in their food or environment. Like roundup, they still sell it to this day when they know it has a link to cancer and there was a huge lawsuit over it. Just makes no sense at all.

This makes sense, people who traveled and walked on foot for miles and miles, people who lived outside 24/7 in tents and igloos and teepees, and cabins. People who built this country, if they didn't die by freezing to death, animals, war or some other personal clash or accident, they lived and thrived. American Indians and the Eskimo people are a living testament to this today. They lived off of the animal, every part, and in winter, like south Dakota and other areas there was no vegetation to thrive on and if there were, it was frozen over or covered. Some of these Indians lived well into their 90's and above, even today some Okinawan's elderly have lived over 120 years, they eat a lot of protein and thrive. Now here's the sad part, some on the mainland have started to eat a western diet, and now many of them are also becoming obese and have a diabetes and other diseases.

Geezy · November 24

11 hours ago, meljel1 said:

They did have gardens and farms, but you are talking about an era that there were no real contamination of pesticides and chemicals the way we have it today. Everything basically today is man made, with dangerous toxins and chemicals to the point are poor bodies cannot handle any of it.

Exactly!
There is a diet known as the Bible diet in which you only eat the foods that were eaten in biblical times. The fallacy with that is those foods no longer exist. We have taken what God gave us and reengineered it to suit our own purposes.