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I've never made brown butter bites. It's another thing on my to-do list. I would like to bump my fat and lower my protein to ensure ketosis as I embark on my effort to lose my last 10 pounds - the most stubborn 10 pounds to try to lose, lol.
Breakfast was 4 sausage patties and 4 eggs, and for lunch I went through McDonald's and got 4 quarter pound beef patties. It came to $6, which is pretty good for a pound of beef.
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I am currently listening to The Carnivore Code by Paul Saladino. It's VERY science-based, deep research kind of material. I think you would like it.
Shawn Baker has a book called The Carnivore Diet. It's sitting next to me at my desk but I haven't got to it yet. But he's one of the leading doctors in this way of eating.
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In the tab at the top of the screen (or menu on mobile) under Activity, there is "Content I Started" which will also display your own posts. The Activity Stream is pretty popular and where a lot of users participate from. I'm old school and still use the index page with the list of Forums.
You can filter, adjust, and set the parameters of the Activity Stream, and then access it under Activity -> My Content Streams
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47 minutes ago, Carol B Calloway said:
Hello, my name is Carol,
I ate three pieces of chicken and an avocado.
Welcome aboard Carol!
Good choices! Sounds delicious
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On 4/29/2024 at 11:36 PM, Angela Little said:
Hello everyone and how are you all doing? I fell off for a minute... but I got back on it today but I am starting out with the ketovore.
Welcome back. If you trip, just get back up. You can do this!
20 hours ago, Angela Little said:Today, 2 eggs, 3 strips of bacon, coffee with the MCT oil, I found these packets at Whole Foods. Lunch, which will also be dinner that I am about to prepare will be tender strips cooked in almond flour in the oven and broccoli
Back when I was keto, there was sooo many things you could make with almond flour. If I recall I posted a fathead's pizza crust recipe in here last summer that had almond flour in the recipe.
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4 hours ago, Miranda said:
I am trying to find a recent topic that I created
You can visit your own profile and there is a button that says "All activity" or something like that. On mobile it looks like a newspaper icon.
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2 hours ago, tam said:
AND A LITTLE CHEESE
Cheese is not usually a problem, especially if it's a little. But sometimes what we think is a little is actually a little more than we think. Check to make sure it's straight up fat and protein with zero/trace carbs in it.
I've also heard a ton of testimony from several individuals that report that cheese tends to stall them, and when they eliminate it they see better results. I know that's a drag but it might be worth cutting out for a couple weeks just to see if it makes a difference. You can always add it back at your leisure. But one of the intents of the carnivore diet is to be an elimination diet so you can try to learn and isolate what your body does or doesn't get along with.
2 hours ago, tam said:I HAVE HAD ABOUT 5 DRINKS OF VODKA
So this will stop you from burning any other fuel source, whether that's glucose/carbs/sugar OR fat/ketones until it gets metabolized. How long that takes depends on how much you are drinking.
2 hours ago, tam said:AND SUGAR FREE FLAVOR PACKETS
This is another thing that usually isn't a problem, and in our minds we think isn't a problem, but sometimes can still be a problem. Some of the artificial sweeteners are still cut with sugar, but if it's less than 0.5g they can round that down to zero on the label legally. Some people still experience a cephalic phase insulin response when tasting the sweetness of artificial sweeteners - that is, just the taste of something sweet causes the pancreas to squirt out some insulin in anticipation of carbs coming down the gullet. If you are one who's body does this and you are sipping them all day long, then you have a constant insulin response going on, and this will work against your fat loss efforts.
Besides those small observations here is something else to consider: How often are you eating? Do you snack between meals? Even when you are eating carnivore, anytime you eat something, there will be either a glucose or insulin response. I can eat strict carnivore, but if I am nibbling on beef jerky, pork rinds, cheese, or leftovers every hour or two throughout the day, I will be up on the scale the next day. Ideally, you want to have a satisfying meal, and then give your body a break until the next meal, whether that's 1, 2, or 3 meals a day.
Women do tend to lose it slower than men. Sometimes there are other issues at play that you can get bloodwork done for, such as testing your thyroid function or your sex hormone levels. Some people need medication/supplementation/therapy to address these issues, and then the weight starts coming off easier.
Hope this helps! And welcome aboard!
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5 hours ago, Geezy said:
I quit coffee just because I lost my taste for it but do drink one cup of tea in the morning. I make mine bulletproof. That’s one tablespoon of butter and one tablespoon of MCT oil in the tea and then emulsified. It’s creamy, frothy and delicious.Out of curiosity what do you use to get it to mix, because in my mind fat and water is going to want to separate.
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So I did some tile work for a friend and to pay me back they took us out to eat today to a place called Silver Lake Country Club. It's a members only establishment. It was pretty tasty. I had a filet mignon with a salad wedge and I added a blackened salmon filet to dish as well for the extra meat/protein. This did mean I ingested some ranch (seed oil) today.
I've had a little more plants lately than I prefer to deal with. I think the month of May is going to be either a personal lion diet or BBBE challenge for myself. I still want to lose 10 pounds and the pool opens Memorial Day, lol.
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19 hours ago, SusanneUK said:
I quit smoking in 1999 with the help of a message board like this... I'm not THAT old, I just quit smoking at 19
Awesome! I smoked from summer 1993 to October 7th, 2000 and haven't touched one since. I quit a month before I turned 25.
17 hours ago, Miranda said:scrolling media is really just for transmitting/bragging.
Social ME-dia. Me, me, me, me, look at me!
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On 4/21/2024 at 9:06 PM, Geezy said:
Thought of you Bob when I read this.
From the article....
"It didn’t take long before I started to come upon terms like “the hypertriglyceridemia of infection”, which gave a hint to the answer. Why would high triglycerides be important? Because these triglycerides are, by necessity, carried by lipoproteins! During infection, more fat is coming from fat tissue to the liver, and there is an increase in new fat being made in the liver, as well as an increase in production of cholesterol – all materials necessary for making lipoproteins like VLDL."
It would be interesting to see if my trigs would shoot up when I get a cold or covid or something. I would probably have to go off my Fenofibrates and Niacin for a while though to establish a baseline.
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Welcome aboard.
I did lose a bunch of weight, but the scale has remained idle since November. I have to credit it to a combination of carnivore, intermittent fasting, and an actual need to lose weight. In November, I had some blood work that scared me (you'll find the discussion about my triglycerides in the private area) and so I added back a third meal and some occasional snacking to stop the weight loss. Now I want to take off another 10+ but struggling to get back into my old pattern/habit.
But I feel like a million dollars now, compared to a year ago when I felt like death, so I'm here to say
I've heard that women lose weight slower than men and it can discourage you. Don't be disparaged. Stick with it. We can toy with macros and fasting schedules and for some they need to get some labs done and see if there is an underlying health condition making it difficult for you to lose weight.
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On 4/26/2024 at 8:55 AM, SusanneUK said:
I'm new here and wanted to introduce myself. Is this forum new? It's so awesome to find this - in my continued quest to minimise my Facebook use, and to find a message board that is actually easy to navigate by topic, this here is a Godsend!
Yes, it is new. We went live last September, so we're only 7 months old.
I've been a forum junkie since the 90's and like you I prefer communities centered around topical based discussions. Social media really doesn't provide that.
On 4/26/2024 at 8:55 AM, SusanneUK said:I was using soya as my protein, so it still wasn't all that healthy.
I can relate. When I first discovered low carb and keto, soy was revered as a wonderful substitute. I consumed lots of it back in the day.
On 4/26/2024 at 8:55 AM, SusanneUK said:The four years of recovery, away from sugars and grains and starches, had given me a basis to stand on. Now I'm able to think long-term, not worry about what the scale says this week. My weight has gone up since the switch (as the previous diet was rather restrictive) but I can trust that meat won't make me obese, and I'm here for my health and for the long haul. But also, for peace with food, which I finally and for the first time in my life truly feel. That right there is the greatest thing for me right now.
Awesome! These individuals that go carnivore cold turkey (that is, abruptly) - power to them. I couldn't have done it like that. I had to build on what I had learned in the low carb space and gradually adopt carnivore. And like you, I am in this for the long-haul, and I swear I will never go back to my former way of eating.
On 4/26/2024 at 8:55 AM, SusanneUK said:Good to be here. I hope to meet some companions on this road, get involved, really find community here - which is so hard to do on FB. Please do say hi if you've read this. All the best!
Hi!
My name is Bob, and I am from Northeast Ohio, USA.
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On 4/26/2024 at 5:59 PM, Kangaroo said:
I haven't lost weight since the stall, but my belt size has gone down, indicating fat loss.
Nice. I noticed the same thing this morning when putting on a suit. I have this belt that when I was much bigger I had to fasten it on the first and final notch (before being too fat and having to get a larger belt). As I have lost weight, I've moved down the notches and have been at notch #6 since November. This morning I put on the belt and realized afterward that I had fastened it on notch #7. That's the last notch and I will have to get a smaller belt or start cutting my own notches in it.
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On 4/26/2024 at 9:49 AM, SusanneUK said:
L - can of salmon and can of tuna, mixed, butter added (that was a true penance - not eating that again!)
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I hate fish. Might need to do egg days on Fridays.I tried a can of Salmon and I had mixed opinions. I mixed it up with some avocado mayonnaise like you would tuna fish and it was alright, but there were bones in it which I wasn't expecting, lol.
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I don't usually run into this situation, such as a business luncheon, anniversary party, congregation picnic, or other social event. I will either eat ahead of time, or I am actually quite happy and comfortable dipping my toes back into keto on such occasions. I can graze from the processed meat and cheese tray as well as the vegetable tray, and people will readily understand that I am on a diet.
I am very excited about carnivore though, and am happy to get preachy about it when given the opportunity, so I probably would have started educating her and she would be wishing I would shut up soon so she could walk away, lol.
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Okay, so it's not my disaster, but an ex-girlfriend's. She was cooking something in oil on the stove, got a phone call, and laid down on the bed to talk on the phone and forgot she had something on the stove. After a while I sensed something was burning and the whole pan was in flames. We had a 2nd floor apartment and I grabbed that pan with an oven mit and ran it down the hall, down the stairs, and threw it outside in the front lawn, lol. I was not a happy camper at that moment, lol.
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Today has been pretty simple. Grass fed ground beef for breakfast with some eggs. And then grass fed ground been made into burgers with pepper jack cheese and jalapeno slices for dinner.
I have a lot of beef to eat or I am gonna have to freeze it, lol.
The jalapenos actually gave me some stomach cramps, but it's been a long time since I have had any.
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I can't escape plastic. Sure, I use wood cutting boards, drink from glass or stainless steel, store food in glass containers (with plastic snap on lids), at home. But I also buy meat in bulk and separate it into plastic quart freezer bags, and when you eat out, all your food and beverages (especially fast food) get served in plastic.
I've always hated polyester. I do love me some rayon though, lol.
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9 hours ago, Kangaroo said:
I had been doing intermittent fasting and only eating 1 meal a day.
How much were you eating in that one meal? We're you ever hungry inbetween those 24 hour day to day fasts? How much weight did you lose in the first 85 days before the hunger strike?
9 hours ago, Kangaroo said:About 2 weeks ago, I added a second meal
I'm just wondering if your body was in a deficit and when you did add this second meal your body was like "thank the heavens, the herd has returned! Let's eat!" lol.
9 hours ago, Kangaroo said:And now I am eating about 3+ pounds of meat a day. It seems like it might be too much for me, as I'm only 5'9". Today, I ate 2 pounds of ground beef (80/20), 1 pound of bacon, and coffee with 2 tbsp of butter. And yet, I am still hungry. Yesterday, I think I ate closer to 4 pounds of meat. Is this normal?
I am 5'8", 175 (down from 230) and eat about 2-3 pounds of meat per day. I used to intermittently fast and eat 2 meals a day, but in November I added back breakfast and have stayed the same weight since. I plan on returning to 2 meals a day now that the weather is warmer and try to knock off another 10-15 pounds.
Generally speaking, I would trust your satiety signals. Stop eating when you feel full. Don't eat again until you are truly hungry - not when you're bored or just desiring a snack. Protein and fat signaling in your body should work for us, especially after 90+days, so you can play with your macros. Fat is what typically satiates and adding fat helps for most people, so don't drain the fat from your ground beef. Slurp it up, lol. If you do drain it, add some butter.
I've personally found OMAD to be difficult. For me to pull it off, I am ignore hunger signals throughout the day, forcing myself to wait until mealtime. I will have to use tea and suck on salt crystals to help shut it up and pass the time.
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Which foods have the most plastics? You may be surprised
By Sandee LaMotte, CNN6 minute read, Published 10:53 AM EDT, Mon April 22, 2024“How much plastic will you have for dinner, sir? And you, ma’am?” While that may seem like a line from a satirical skit on Saturday Night Live, research is showing it’s much too close to reality.
Ninety percent of animal and vegetable protein samples tested positive for microplastics, teeny polymer fragments that can range from less than 0.2 inch (5 millimeters) down to 1/25,000th of an inch (1 micrometer), according to a February 2024 study. Anything smaller than 1 micrometer is a nanoplastic that must be measured in billionths of a meter.
Even vegetarians can’t escape, according to a 2021 study. If the plastic is small enough, fruits and vegetables can absorb microplastics through their root systems and transfer those chemical bits to the plant’s stems, leaves, seeds and fruit.
Salt can be packed with plastic. A 2023 study found coarse Himalayan pink salt mined from the ground had the most microplastics, followed by black salt and marine salt. Sugar is also “an important route of human exposure to these micropollutants,” according to a 2022 study.
Even tea bags, many of which are made of plastic, can release enormous amounts of plastic. Researchers at McGill University in Quebec, Canada found brewing a single plastic teabag released about 11.6 billion microplastic and 3.1 billion nanoplastic particles into the water.
Rice is also a culprit. A University of Queensland study found that for every 100 grams (1/2 cup) of rice people eat, they consume three to four milligrams of plastic — the number jumps to 13 milligrams per serving for instant rice. (You can reduce plastic contamination by up to 40% by washing rice, researchers said. That also helps reduce arsenic, which can be high in rice.)
Let’s not forget bottled water. One liter of water — the equivalent of two standard-size bottled waters — contained an average of 240,000 plastic particles from seven types of plastics, including nanoplastics, according to a March 2024 study.
Dangers to human health
While microplastics have been found in the human lung, maternal and fetal placental tissues, human breast milk and human blood, until recently there was very little research on how these polymers affect the body’s organs and functions.
A March 2024 study found people with microplastics or nanoplastics in arteries in the neck were twice as likely to have a heart attack, stroke or die from any cause over the next three years than people who had none.
Nanoplastics are the most worrisome type of plastic pollution for human health, experts say. That’s because the minuscule particles can invade individual cells and tissues in major organs, potentially interrupting cellular processes and depositing endocrine-disrupting chemicals such as bisphenols, phthalates, flame retardants, per- and polyfluorinated substances, or PFAS, and heavy metals.
“All of those chemicals are used in the manufacturing of plastic, so if a plastic makes its way into us, it’s carrying those chemicals with it,” Sherri “Sam” Mason, director of sustainability at Penn State Behrend in Erie, Pennsylvania, told CNN in a prior interview.
“And because the temperature of the body is higher than the outside, those chemicals are going to migrate out of that plastic and end up in our body,” Mason said.
“Those chemicals can be carried to your liver and your kidney and your brain and even make their way across the placental boundary and end up in an unborn child,” she said.
“There currently is no scientific consensus on the potential health impacts of nano- and microplastic particles. Therefore, media reports based on assumptions and conjecture do nothing more than unnecessarily scare the public,” a spokesperson for the International Bottled Water Association, an industry association, told CNN previously.
All types of proteins contained microplastics
In the February study, which was published in Environmental Research, researchers looked at over a dozen commonly consumed proteins, including beef, breaded and other types of shrimp, chicken breasts and nuggets, pork, seafood, tofu and several plant-based meat alternatives, such as nuggets, plant crumbles similar to ground beef and plant-based fish sticks.
Breaded shrimp contained the most tiny plastics by far, at well over an average of 300 microplastic pieces per serving. Plant-based nuggets came in second, at under 100 pieces per serving, followed by chicken nuggets, pollock fish sticks, minimally processed White Gulf shrimp, fresh caught Key West pink shrimp and a plant-based fish-like stick.
The least contaminated proteins were chicken breasts, followed by pork loin chops and tofu.
After comparing the results to consumer consumption data, researchers estimated the average exposure of American adults to microplastics could range between 11,000 and 29,000 particles a year, with a maximum estimated exposure of 3.8 million microplastics per year.
Fruits and vegetables tested high in plastics
The oceans are filled with plastics, and a number of studies have captured how those are ending up in the seafood we eat. However, fewer studies have looked at vegetables and land animal proteins, such as cattle and hogs, according to an August 2020 study.
The study, published in Environmental Science, found between 52,050 and 233,000 plastic particles under 10 micrometers — each micrometer is about the diameter of a rain drop — in a variety of fruits and vegetables.
Apples and carrots were the most contaminated fruit and vegetable, respectively, with over 100,000 microplastics per gram. The smallest particles were found in carrots, while the largest pieces of plastic were found in lettuce, which was also the least contaminated vegetable.
Plastics are everywhere
There are a staggering number of plastics in the world, today, according to a recent analysis — 16,000 plastic chemicals, with at least 4,200 of those considered to be “highly hazardous” to human health and the environment.
As these chemicals break down in the environment, they can turn into microplastics and then nanoplastics, particles so small science struggled for decades to see them.
A recent study that utilized brand new technology found the number of nanoplastics in three popular brands of water sold in the United States to be in between 110,000 and 370,000 per liter, if not higher. A liter is the equivalent of about two 16 ounce bottled waters. (The authors declined to mention which brands of bottled water they studied.)
Prior research using older technology had identified only about 300 nanoplastics in bottled water, along with bigger microplastics.
Lisovskaya/iStockphoto/Getty ImagesAt least 16,000 plastic chemicals exist with least 4,200 of those considered to be “highly hazardous” to human health and the environment, a study found.Ways to reduce plastic
The levels of contamination found in bottled water reinforce long-held expert advice to drink tap water from glass or stainless steel containers to reduce exposure, Mason said. That advice extends to other foods and drinks packaged in plastic as well, she added.
“People don’t think of plastics as shedding but they do,” she said. “In almost the same way we’re constantly shedding skin cells, plastics are constantly shedding little bits that break off, such as when you open that plastic container for your store-bought salad or a cheese that’s wrapped in plastic.”
While science learns more about the plastics we consume, there are things people can do to reduce their exposure, according to experts.
· Try to avoid eating anything that has been stored in a plastic container. Look for food stored in glass, enamel or foil.
· Wear clothing made from natural fabrics and buy consumer products made from natural materials.
· Don’t microwave in plastic. Instead, heat food on the stove or by microwaving in glass.
· If you can, eat as much fresh food as possible, and limit purchase of processed and ultraprocessed foods wrapped in plastic.
ARTICLE SOURCE: https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/22/health/plastics-food-wellness-scn
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On 4/22/2024 at 10:13 PM, Geezy said:
Not only will I not fail, I cannot fail.
Your mindset is what carries you through thick and thin.
This is true. You often hear me say that I have made a vow never to eat grain or refined sugars ever again. I'm a person who takes my vows seriously. This fits into that mindset that you speak of.
I smoked from summer 1993 up until October 7th, 2000. I had entertained quitting a few times before, but I never had the mindset to do so. I was motivated to quit smoking for religious reasons and vowed never to touch a cigarette again. The first 3 days after stopping 'cold turkey' were brutal, and after 3 weeks I gained confidence. After 3 months, knew I could do this and not renege. Cigarettes still smelled delicious until after 3 years, and now I can't stand them. 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months, and 3 years were the recognizable milestones.
Sugar and carb withdrawal follows a similar pattern when you quit cold turkey. Cravings are killer for the first 3 days. After 3 weeks, you're like "okay, I got this". Then after 3 months, it's like why stop now?
Hopefully in 3 years I will be completely healed.
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On 4/20/2024 at 9:37 AM, Progrumz said:
I don't see an issue with swearing on television. Television shows have ratings, so it's easy enough to avoid things that you do not want to see or hear. Most people are moving away from cable and towards streaming services, anyway.
Welcome aboard @Progrumz
I generally don't pay no mind to bad language because I hear it all throughout the day as it is, working in construction, dealing with others. Only the excessive use of bad language will catch my attention and irritate me. But yes, I can always change the channel.
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You don't want to overdo it with liver. Not only is Vitamin A toxicity an issue, but I have heard that copper toxicity can also be an issue. One resouce suggests the following...