Do I need to eliminate these for the carnivore diet? Are they allowed on the ketovore diet? Which ones might be problematic?

organic ground flax seed

organic chia seeds

extra virgin olive oil

apple cider vinegar w/the mother

organic cinnamon

ground cumin

ground thyme

ground ginger

cayenne pepper

almond milk (Kirkland off-the-shelf original unsweetened and organic vanilla unsweetened)

hemp hearts (seeds)

organic gotu kola powder

organic cacao powder

monk fruit extract powder

MCT oil (C8)

organic matcha (100% Japanese green tea powder)

It all depends on the carb content. On carnivore I would only use the MCT oil on a regular basis. On occasion but rarely, I might use some thyme in a recipe. I will use ACV when I make biltong.

On ketovore you have to count the carbs in everything you eat so as long as you stay under 20 grams you should be good on most of that stuff.

The big exception would be the almond milk. There is no such thing as almond milk. There are no teats on an almond. All that junk is is seed oils. One of the worst things you can put in your body. Use cream, half and half or just whole milk. If you cans handle dairy and just have to have some kind of milk type product then use coconut milk. It still isn’t milk but at least it’s not a seed oil.

EVO isn’t too bad for a fruit oil but finding real EVO can be tricky. Do your research to find real EVO that hasn’t been cut with seed oils.

If you are going to do carnivore it’s best to just cut all of that stuff out and just eat and use animal fats, eat moderate protein, use salt liberally and drink water.

I saw a teat on a almond once.

Strict carnivore most of your list is off limits but would move you into more of a ketogenic type diet. With ketogenic diets one would have to count carbs to keep them low. I have read less than 50 and less than 30, not sure which one is more accurate. I would guess the lesser the better.

Almond milk is a bad choice because it is straight seed oil and seed oils probably contribute to a chunk of what is wrong with the Standard American Diet.

But at the same time, find the path that works the best for you. if you need/want some of those things as you work yourself toward zero carbs/zero sugars, then by all means go with what works for you. When you move to lesser carbs and lesser sugars that has to be an improvement.

God luck as you find what works best for you.

Scott

5 hours ago, ketomonster said:

I saw a teat on an almond once.

Pic or it didn’t happen. 😏

pic 'r teat🎃

Nix the almond milk and chia seeds for sure. Some spices are okay.

8 hours ago, Miranda said:

Nix the almond milk and chia seeds for sure. Some spices are okay.

Flax seed and chia seeds are safe for wild birds, so I can get rid of those that way.

Not sure how to get rid of about 46 cartons of almond milk unless I throw it away.
Maybe donate.

I would find something to do with it before I threw it away.

It could probably serve someone some purpose.

Scott

Found a food bank near my house for the almond milk.

(Was unable to edit post above.)

I offered to donate these to the food bank: (awaiting reply as to which items they will accept)

5.5 lbs Frozen Organic Normandy Vegetables (broccoli, cauliflower, orange and yellow carrots)

1 container of 1 lb 8 oz raw organic honey

15 quart cartons of Kirkland Original Unsweetened Almond Milk (no refrigeration needed until after opening)  

32 quart cartons of Kirkland Organic Unsweetened Vanilla Almond Milk (no refrigeration needed until after opening)  

2 containers of 2 lb 12 oz Heinz Tomato Ketchup (Simply - no artificial sweeteners)

 1 container of 1 lb ground cumin

Check out church charities in your area as well.

19 hours ago, Scott F. said:

I would find something to do with it before I threw it away.

It could probably serve someone some purpose.

Scott

When I purged our kitchen and fridge of all the crap nutrition I figured if it's no good for me, then it's not good for anyone else either. All the grains and spices went in our compost pit. All the sweet stuff was dumped on the lawn for the wildlife to consume and all the bad oils were used to light our fire pit. And after the purge our cabinets were bare! There is still a small container of real sugar in our house, BUT that is used for the hummingbird nectar that I make up during the summer.

2 hours ago, Terry said:

I figured if it's no good for me, then it's not good for anyone else either.

That makes sense.🙂
Food Bank hasn't responded to my offer, so maybe they don't want anything on my meager list.😆

6 hours ago, Terry said:

When I purged our kitchen and fridge of all the crap nutrition I figured if it's no good for me, then it's not good for anyone else either. All the grains and spices went in our compost pit. All the sweet stuff was dumped on the lawn for the wildlife to consume and all the bad oils were used to light our fire pit. And after the purge our cabinets were bare! There is still a small container of real sugar in our house, BUT that is used for the hummingbird nectar that I make up during the summer.

I do this with books also. I had a bunch of diet books and I put them in the recycling.

2 hours ago, Miranda said:

I do this with books also. I had a bunch of diet books and I put them in the recycling.

I went through all my cookbooks and got rid of 95% of them. If they mentioned vegetables, fruit or flour then they had to go 😂. I donated them to our local library book sale.

I have been on "Ketovore" with under ten grams of carbs per day.

Good ketosis going on, no cravings for anything including alcohol. 20+ kg lost since November. Feeling strong. High blood ketones (2.0-5.0) are good heart fuel for my failed and stented heart.

Those spices on the OP list would not bother me but I see they do no belong to a proper Carnivore.

I use no seed oils! Pure organic olive and coconut oils only. Lots of butter. My carbs come from fatty sausages,yogurt,cheese,nuts and an occasional salad. My fat is 75% or more, energy % to be clear. Salads with fatty cheese like Feta help to keep fat up,all our meat (except bacon) is lean here in Finland.

Edited April 27Apr 27 by Carburetor

On 4/23/2025 at 1:52 PM, musicalgym said:

Do I need to eliminate these for the carnivore diet? Are they allowed on the ketovore diet? Which ones might be problematic?

organic ground flax seed

organic chia seeds

extra virgin olive oil

apple cider vinegar w/the mother

organic cinnamon

ground cumin

ground thyme

ground ginger

cayenne pepper

almond milk (Kirkland off-the-shelf original unsweetened and organic vanilla unsweetened)

hemp hearts (seeds)

organic gotu kola powder

organic cacao powder

monk fruit extract powder

MCT oil (C8)

organic matcha (100% Japanese green tea powder)

This list of items reminds me of my diet PC (Pre Carnivore). In the name of health, I was testing and trying every influencers idea of what they thought healthy should be. I have MS and that is my main area of concern as far as my health goes along with a laundry list of other conditions that sometimes go along with an MS life. I made the chia seed puddings and was adding flaxseed to everything, drinking vinegar water, homemade kombucha, adding Mushrooms powders, High dose biotin, Etc, Etc.......... in the end all I noticed was my wallet being drained by unnecessary items in my diet. Then I saw a Dr Berry video, totally cleaned out every kitchen cabinet and the fridge and never looked back. If spices don't bother your system then enjoy them for flavor but I wouldn't look to them for ANY health benefit. They may contain healthy bits, but the small quantities we consume will have very little to no effect on your health, IMO. I still use apple cider vinegar for my pickled eggs and unrefined coconut oil for ketones along with a few spices for flavor. Otherwise it is pretty much just meat (mostly beef). Leftover hamburgers and a few hard boiled eggs for today.

On 4/23/2025 at 2:52 PM, musicalgym said:

Do I need to eliminate these for the carnivore diet?

For a true carnivore diet, yes, they all need to go.

But for other variations of a carnivore-centric diet, it depends....

On 4/23/2025 at 2:52 PM, musicalgym said:

Are they allowed on the ketovore diet?

As long as you keep your actual carb count under 10g per day on average, then you could use all those things.

On 4/23/2025 at 2:52 PM, musicalgym said:

Which ones might be problematic?

Anything that comes from a plant, lol. Particularly, roots, stems, leaves, and seeds will contain the most plant toxins, which may or may not impact you in small quantities, depending on your personal physiology.

I'd only get rid of the Chia and Flax seed. The rest, in small amounts, do not worry about it.

The important thing is not to eat SAD and processed foods. To stay on carnivore for life. And if a little cinnamon is going to make you do that, than so be it.

On 4/25/2025 at 8:30 PM, Terry said:

I went through all my cookbooks and got rid of 95% of them. If they mentioned vegetables, fruit or flour then they had to go 😂. I donated them to our local library book sale.

You spread those toxic materials to the local library? Shame on you sir! 😆