After my heart attack, my wife and doctor are firm believers that my 11-month carnivore diet were the reason.

Anyway, in a couple of months they are going to do more test to see how it's going, I have to try to get it down and I refused the statins.

Are there fats I should cut out and go mostly protein, they don't want me cooking with butter, I have been cooking my eggs with butter and putting a little bit of butter in 1 cup of coffee.

I have cut out 99% of sausages because I don't believe they were good, the only ones I eat are the Organic Beef Smocked Sausage Kielbasa that we buy at Costco, also hamburger meat 70/30, chicken thighs cooked in tallow, that sense then my wife has been ditching the skin, my favorite.

I have not eaten cheese in a long time, the only dairy I consume is organic half and half with coffee 1.5 tablespoon 10-12 oz cup.

I was eating 4 slices of bacon on the days I worked with eggs; wife is cutting that out, wife and doctor are both sold on the fact that Bacon fat, dairy and tallow are the reason for my heart attack.

I can already tell there is much less fat when I go to bathroom.

After my mom's dementia I have said more than once, I rather die than take a statin

18 hours ago, 1ino said:

  18 hours ago, Nick Heaz said:

Citrus bergamot

  18 hours ago, Meathead said:

Try to eliminate the booze, if you can. NOTHING good comes from it.

7 hours ago, Meathead said:

Like Bob said, this lifestyle didn't cause this in 11 months.

Looking at my history by your standards I should have had a coronary or even a stroke after 1 years hard core carnivore.

Do your research n=1 is the best but you really need to be firm in your convictions.

I'm off my medication for bp because I'm supplementing with natto and it's doing as well as the man made poison.

N=1 your body will tell you if you're doing the right thing.

Link?

Pill form or the actual stuff, also how often

Edited yesterday at 01:01 PM1 day by 1ino

8 hours ago, 1ino said:

If I had never been exposed/benefitted from having a chicken house in the family I would probably think like the masses that pasture raised/grass fed/grass finished/organic are truly as advertised.

They bred the hens and then candled them for fertility. Anything that was not fertile was given away. I went years with eggs running out of my ears. We had a a pack of rabbit dogs and six or eight coon dogs. A couple days a week they were 'egg sucking dogs', no pun intended.

I have seen people pay $$$ per pound for organic chicken and turkey and no they buy their feed from the same place I buy mine.

The only time I specifically buy 'farm fresh eggs' is when they are being sold my some kid. I see that as an investment as much as a carton of eggs.

Any other time our eggs come from our chickens. If they go on strike two things happen. One, I hang up a leg quarter and have a conversation with the hens about being a egg laying chicken or a meat chicken. They usually get the hint. And two, we buy Eggland's Best or the grocery store brand to cover their drought.

Maybe the third thing, like in the video, if it is a local farmer that I buy from I can trust what he says about how the eggs or meats were raised. For me, I am a nay-sayer at heart, so big grocery is no different to me than Big Pharma or Big Food.

The dollar outweights all else.

Scott

Just got off nights. A ton of typos. Eyes not focusing this morning.

Scott

4 hours ago, Terry said:

I agree 100% with Scott on this. "Fancy" eggs as I call them are not worth the extra costs IMO

I agree as far as grocery store eggs. But if I can get some backyard chicken eggs they taste better.

28 minutes ago, Miranda said:

I agree as far as grocery store eggs. But if I can get some backyard chicken eggs they taste better.

I don't notice the difference; I let my chickens out everyday

Some people can taste the difference.

For a stretch we were getting 55-gallon drums of the wheat, barley and rye that were left over from each batch in a local brewery. Somedays I could taste a little difference in the eggs, especially the smaller eggs. The extra-large brown eggs, not so much.

In a similar discussion there is a guy down the road that feeds the same to his meat goats. He says he can taste the difference in the meat. Even the type of grass affects the taste of milk.

We are when we eat so I guess that goes for the animals we eat as well.

Scott

4 hours ago, Miranda said:

I agree as far as grocery store eggs. But if I can get some backyard chicken eggs they taste better.

A while back we had some home raised duck eggs and they were really good quality.

Just last week we bought 6 duck eggs at our local big box store from a commercial duck eggs raiser. You could tell immediately that these were not home raised. Smaller size, smaller yolk size, Pale yolks.

1 hour ago, Scott F. said:

Some people can taste the difference.

For a stretch we were getting 55-gallon drums of the wheat, barley and rye that were left over from each batch in a local brewery. Somedays I could taste a little difference in the eggs, especially the smaller eggs. The extra-large brown eggs, not so much.

In a similar discussion there is a guy down the road that feeds the same to his meat goats. He says he can taste the difference in the meat. Even the type of grass affects the taste of milk.

We are when we eat so I guess that goes for the animals we eat as well.

Scott

On our trip around Ireland, years back we were introduced to KerryGold butter and our life's changed 😀.

unfortunately I'm not paying over $8 a pound for any butter, much less KerryGold.

My cholesterol numbers are all high and I'm not concerned one bit. My triglycerides are low and the

Cholesterol/ HDL Ratio

Normal range: below <=4.4

Value 2.9

My doctor even said "well your numbers are elevated but you are at no risk for heart disease with a ratio like that" Keep in mind though this is the same doctor who said to me "You know you should eat some carbs". I laughed right at her.

On 6/25/2025 at 5:35 AM, Nick Heaz said:

Framingham heart study both include a cholesterol-mortality graph. Cholesterol over 240 mg/dL is associated with increased cardiovascular death.

Let’s just start out saying that those are complete lies and false studies. The Framingham study was debunked and proven long ago to be fabricated.

There has never been and there never will be an RCT that PROVES that cholesterol causes CVD.

The first attack identified by autopsy was in 1912, prior to hat there was little to no evidence of heart disease in America.

It wasn’t until the introduction of processed foods and seed oils into our diet that started to move to the forefront of human mortality.

There is no causal relationship between heart disease and saturated fats or cholesterol.

Any research claiming otherwise is simply pseudoscience.

Atherosclerosis is the underpinning disfunction behind most heart disease.

Atherosclerotic lesioning of the endothelia  cells of the vascular tree is caused by several factors. One is chronic hypertension or high blood pressure. Another is chronic inflammation of the endothelia cells beds. The third one is physical injury to those cell beds.

Compare this to what it takes to create fire. You need three things, a fuel source, oxygen and heat. Remove any one of those three things and the fire cannot survive. The same can be said of atherosclerosis. You need damage to the endothelia cells, inflammation and high blood pressure. Remove any one of these and you will not have atherosclerosis. The high blood pressure seems to be the most underpinning cause of the other two. There is a misconception that hypertension is caused by too much salt but in reality it’s the inability to excrete salt that causes hypertension. Sure, the excess salt is causing it but any normal healthy person with normally functioning kidneys will excrete excess salt so if you have excess salt in your blood causing hypertension then it’s not the salt that’s the issue but instead the fact that you can’t excrete salt normally.

The usual cause of the inability to excrete salt normally is hyperinsulinemia. The cause of hyperinsulinemia is eating too many carbohydrates on a daily basis. So if you want to sort out the hypotension in your life stop eating carbs.

Without sufficient cholesterol you will die. All of the cells in your body are made up of cholesterol therefore cholesterol is vital for proper human function.

80% of the cholesterol in your body is made by the body so you don’t need to eat it to have it.

Bart Kay

Cholesterol is an essential component of the wall of every cell in our body. It makes up a surprisingly high percentage of the fat in our brain, and our brains contain a lot of fat. Cholesterol forms part of the myelin sheaths of our nerves and is essential for properly transmitting brain and nerve impulses. Cholesterol is the precursor of Vitamin D and the sex hormones testosterone and progesterone. It helps fight off bacterial infections, as well as playing other roles in the immune system. It helps heal arterial damage by participating in plaque formation.

So cholesterol is nothing to be afraid of. Given that there is no evidence to show that cholesterol causes cardiovascular disease, and there is plenty of evidence to show that low cholesterol damages the body in many ways, I vote for not worrying about it. As long as your ratio of triglycerides to HDL is low enough, your cardiovascular risk is minimal.

It’s worth noting that the body regulates how much cholesterol is in the blood and that cholesterol is ultimately an essential and healthy compound. It acts as a building block for vitamin D, and numerous hormones. It is an essential part of bile salt–the substance that your body uses to digest and absorb essential fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E, and vitamin K2. [10]

Not only is cholesterol critical for numerous bodily functions, but many modern studies have also linked high cholesterol with lower risk for specific and all-cause mortality and lower cholesterol with increased risk for all-cause mortality.

The reason the medical profession worries so much about your LDL level is that studies have shown a a very strong correlation between lowering your cholesterol by taking a statin and the annual pay bonuses of pharmaceutical company executives. (Cynical? Moi?)

1 hour ago, Geezy said:

Let’s just start out saying that those are complete lies and false studies. The Framingham study was debunked and proven long ago to be fabricated.

There has never been and there never will be an RCT that PROVES that cholesterol causes CVD.

The first attack identified by autopsy was in 1912, prior to hat there was little to no evidence of heart disease in America.

It wasn’t until the introduction of processed foods and seed oils into our diet that started to move to the forefront of human mortality.

There is no causal relationship between heart disease and saturated fats or cholesterol.

Any research claiming otherwise is simply pseudoscience.

Atherosclerosis is the underpinning disfunction behind most heart disease.

Atherosclerotic lesioning of the endothelia  cells of the vascular tree is caused by several factors. One is chronic hypertension or high blood pressure. Another is chronic inflammation of the endothelia cells beds. The third one is physical injury to those cell beds.

Compare this to what it takes to create fire. You need three things, a fuel source, oxygen and heat. Remove any one of those three things and the fire cannot survive. The same can be said of atherosclerosis. You need damage to the endothelia cells, inflammation and high blood pressure. Remove any one of these and you will not have atherosclerosis. The high blood pressure seems to be the most underpinning cause of the other two. There is a misconception that hypertension is caused by too much salt but in reality it’s the inability to excrete salt that causes hypertension. Sure, the excess salt is causing it but any normal healthy person with normally functioning kidneys will excrete excess salt so if you have excess salt in your blood causing hypertension then it’s not the salt that’s the issue but instead the fact that you can’t excrete salt normally.

The usual cause of the inability to excrete salt normally is hyperinsulinemia. The cause of hyperinsulinemia is eating too many carbohydrates on a daily basis. So if you want to sort out the hypotension in your life stop eating carbs.

Without sufficient cholesterol you will die. All of the cells in your body are made up of cholesterol therefore cholesterol is vital for proper human function.

80% of the cholesterol in your body is made by the body so you don’t need to eat it to have it.

Bart Kay

Cholesterol is an essential component of the wall of every cell in our body. It makes up a surprisingly high percentage of the fat in our brain, and our brains contain a lot of fat. Cholesterol forms part of the myelin sheaths of our nerves and is essential for properly transmitting brain and nerve impulses. Cholesterol is the precursor of Vitamin D and the sex hormones testosterone and progesterone. It helps fight off bacterial infections, as well as playing other roles in the immune system. It helps heal arterial damage by participating in plaque formation.

So cholesterol is nothing to be afraid of. Given that there is no evidence to show that cholesterol causes cardiovascular disease, and there is plenty of evidence to show that low cholesterol damages the body in many ways, I vote for not worrying about it. As long as your ratio of triglycerides to HDL is low enough, your cardiovascular risk is minimal.

It’s worth noting that the body regulates how much cholesterol is in the blood and that cholesterol is ultimately an essential and healthy compound. It acts as a building block for vitamin D, and numerous hormones. It is an essential part of bile salt–the substance that your body uses to digest and absorb essential fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E, and vitamin K2. [10]

Not only is cholesterol critical for numerous bodily functions, but many modern studies have also linked high cholesterol with lower risk for specific and all-cause mortality and lower cholesterol with increased risk for all-cause mortality.

The reason the medical profession worries so much about your LDL level is that studies have shown a a very strong correlation between lowering your cholesterol by taking a statin and the annual pay bonuses of pharmaceutical company executives. (Cynical? Moi?)

17 hours ago, 1ino said:

Link?

Pill form or the actual stuff, also how often

F the pills really......

Natto can be bought in most asian markets, you don't use the packets of sauce just stir (activate the culture correctly) then eat with

your eggs, beef or w/e.

If humans have to manipulate ANYTHING into something (healthy) it's capitalism. Just look at supplements, antioxidants, pre/probiotics.