Hi,

I'm new to this lifestyle due to health issues and choosing not to get on ozempic for obvious reasons. 

 

So far my journey has been a smooth transition from processed foods to meat and dairy to just meat, coffee with butter. 

 

Well today's surgery went well and unfortunately forced to take pain medication and antibiotics via IV.

I did learn they have to manage pain even though you're unconscious as they're on 2 different spectrum of each other. 

Regardless hospital staff were a breath of fresh air especially @ 5 am. 

Pain meds from hospital wearing off and pain is a bit annoying like when your insides gurgling before you have explosive diarrhea. 

Once I heal up I'm going back to flat stomach. 

Get well soon.


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31 minutes ago, Geezy said:

Get well soon.

Thanks brother. 

Pain is manageable but putting fuel in and exhaust is plugged has me concerned 😅 

I am smiling from ear to ear trying to keep from laughing my ass off at the stupidity and narrow minded response from putting my cardiologist on notice. 

 

Me>cardiologist 

Hello.

I have given you 3 links to studies/information that Dr. Xxxxx should read to reconsider his stance on our discussion in his office on Sept. 11 2024 .

 

I will not entertain nor acknowledge responses from anyone other than Dr. Xxxx concerning this.

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25672965/

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35938780/

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32773573/

 

I hope to hear from Dr. Xxxxf before the end of October 2024 regarding this.

 

Thank you

 

Mr. Xxxx

 

Cardiologist >me

 

It'll take some time to respond, Mr. Xxxx. I don't have open access to these articles. The lead author seems on a mission to prove his point. I think it's confirmation bias to only look for articles that support your point.

 

But I have been reading studies, placebo controlled trials, not observational studies. I am a cardiologist full time, not a part time investigative psychologist who isn't a physician or cardiologist that has never treated people since the age of 18. Twenty years later, I will never ever change my stance that LDL is a huge component of atherogenesis and plaque formation.

 

I would look because you're my patient and I want to respect your viewpoint. But know that the psychologist writing these papers does not treat people. If you want to trust a plumber to repair your Ferrari, that is a choice you can make, but you also might want a certified Ferrari technician who has been doing it for a couple decades and has serviced literally tens of thousands of Ferraris over the plumber who read a couple of magazines about Ferraris.

Ok so basically he's called 1 person who spent 20yrs with PhD in neuro science then decided to get a PhD in cardiovascular a part time whatever 🙄.  Only reading a couple magazines. 

I put my money on Dr David Diamond > my cardiologist. 

But cudos for a hasty retort and because I challenged him he's going to read them. 

If it looks like sh##, smells like sh## I'm going to call it sh##.

 

So he pushed me into a corner with his egotistical remark.

 

My reply to him. 

 

I have several Ferrari mechanics as you put it you can challenge their discoveries on saturated fats/red meat diet VS CVD.

Mind you 3 of the authors served on the board 2005 for SAD have now reversed their findings and thoughts on saturated fats/red meats in a daily diet. 

 

https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2020.05.077

 

Looking forward to hearing from you. 

Edited September 19, 20241 yr by Meathead

Introduce him to Dr. Phil Ovadia, noted heart surgeon/cardiologist who would definitely disagree with your doctor. He also has a book out called Stay Off My Operating Table.

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48 minutes ago, Geezy said:

Introduce him to Dr. Phil Ovadia

I've said it before and I'll say it here. 

You could hit them upside the head with a brick and they still wouldn't have the common sense. 

I just replied that last reply to yank his chain, he's fired regardless of his decision. 

Due to the fact his being unprofessional response to a bipolar (diagnosed 2002) person.  

I'm just stating facts not using my diagnosis as a crutch or pass. 

Edited September 20, 20241 yr by Meathead

From: MD<<cardiologist 

12:10 PM

It's not me that needs to challenge them. It is them that have to reverse the overwhelming proof that LDL puts plaque in the arteries. I invite you to read/listen to everything that Thomas Dayspring writes and speaks. He is a physician and lipidologist and a recognized expert on lipids.

 

I would also encourage you to read the National Lipid Association and Am Soc for Preventive Cardiology statement on LDL

https://www.lipidjournal.com/article/S1933-2874(23)00033-8/fulltext

 

 

Then read the Am College of Cardiology / Am Heart Association guidelines on primary prevention of cardiovascular disease

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIR.0000000000000678

 

And the 2023 ACC AHA guidelines on management of patients with chronic coronary disease 

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIR.0000000000001168

 

Each one of these is cites dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of articles to support the their statements. When you have read literally hundreds of articles, personally looked at these trial results, know the authors and their clinical background, it is compelling to me. And again, I treat patients with ASCVD everyday. For 20+ years I have.

 

 

I gave him until October 31st to read and reply but his ego and unprofessionalism got the best of him. Showing me no respect by talking down to me instead of a language I would better understand. 

I'm beside myself hearing "I care about your health " but let's do low fat diet with a statin.

I hear you. It’s time to move on. Knock the dust from your sandals as you leave.
He and many other closed minded doctors are the reason for this health epidemic we have in our country but you already know that.
I hope you find a new doctor that’s as understanding as my cardiologist.
Good luck.


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Loving this 16 eggs a day fast. Eating window is 4 hours and not past 7pm. 

This is just past 2 days 

Great job Curt. 

Echo chamber much? But so many of his peers are seeing behind the curtain. An are saying "the emperor has no clothes!" He can't see the obvious because he is unwilling to stick his neck out.

On 9/20/2024 at 7:09 PM, Meathead said:

I treat patients with ASCVD everyday.

But does he heal them? 

These doctors claim they know it all but they watched us die for years. America has the lowest life expectancy rate of all high income western nations. These glorified drug dealers need to shut up. They should feel ashamed, hiding behind statements of AHA, as if that organization was not bought decades ago. 

 

4 hours ago, Orweller said:

But does he heal them? 

Exactly.  I will be posting something I came across tonight about how big Pharma and or medical care. 

This was on national TV fyi. 

I'm going to keep on this egg fast...

N=1 16 eggs/day lowered my BP from 158/90 to 121/64 in 2.5 weeks, broke my 10 week stall after surgery dropped 5 lbs.  Now down to 257lbs.

Eggs tending my egg intake thru to Jan 1 2025.

Edited November 27, 2024Nov 27 by Meathead

Hope all is well. I have a primary who is not opposed to the idea of eating this way but he wishes I would lower the fat content and choose leaner cuts. His opinion and approach has some merit in theory. Per "standards" my cholesterol is high. Eating this way gets me into ketosis and the ketones are running wild. I have (had) plenty of body fat for the body to use as energy. He thinks I should eat a higher fat content when the weight is gone or I have gotten down to a lower body fat percentage. I can see that as a point, we discussed it, and he supports the choices I have made. 

My Neurologists on the other hand, was genuinely excited to see not only my progress but the means to the progress. I don't do stats or research other medical issues but the carnivore approach is wreaking havoc on the MS community. So much so, Stanford is now doing clinical research. My Neurologist is onboard 100%. She even said as a medical doctor with years and years in the classroom she never took an actual class on nutrition. Her approach is people were eating this way, and using food for "medicine" long before the pill was invented. I'm now giving weekly and bi-weekly updates so she can bank it is as 'knowledge'.

I sort of lucked out I guess.

Hope all is well/getting better with the surgery. Nice job with the eggs. There are actually tons of ways to eat carnivore and I have settled on 'steak and eggs' being the primo approach (for me anyways). I'm not sure there is a better way to go. LOL

Hoping for continued progress.

Scott

Thanks and to you as well. 

Hard to take medical advice after learning what we've learned. 

Like they did in Vietnam War, if it can get gangrene chop it off, same thing with a dr they're pushing bullshit kick them to the curb. 

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1222429972234145

 

Seeing if this works. 

Edited November 27, 2024Nov 27 by Scott F.